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I am trying to switch my server from unraid to whs 2011+ flexraid. My first question is can i use the same disks with movies on them in unraid and not lose my data when i switch over to WHS2011. When i am trying to assign the disks in whs 2011 those disks are not recognized by the whs 2011. If so then i am doing something wrong. I have been using Assassins server guide along the way. Thanks.


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I tried the exact same thing a while back and it turned out to be a total fiasco. For some strange reason my server would not recognize any discs after a point. I can't explain exactly what happened other than to say it turned into an absolute nightmare. Chances are my situation was an isolated incident, but I don't ever want to go through it again. I ended up going back to unRAID and upgrading to version 5.0-rcX (it's currently up to 5.0-rc12a) and I couldn't be happier. The latest version supports up to 24 drives plus a cache drive. It also supports drives >3TB. Unless you have a need to expand beyond 24 drives, I highly recommend not making the switch and just upgrading to unRAID version 5.0-rc12a. It's extremely stable and works great.
 

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There is a larger lesson here.. one that I've pointed out on various threads before..


Never make the mistake of complicating a system to such a degree that even you have a hard time recovering in the (inevitable) event that disaster strikes.
 

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Agree ^


Using a file system that's not readable in any system is just a silly idea for a media server.


Why would you do that ? To save a few bucks by using freeware free software instead of a better paid alternative ?


Pain is the result.


Your 100% right. Simplicity and versatility are often overlooked when designing or building a system. Often with regret later.
 

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I think your right. Yes.


But it gets under my skin when people pretend the issue is with flexraid. Moving to flexraid is not the issue. It's not any different than just moving away from unraid to normal windows or anything else. Unraid is the problem.


For me I really need my data drives to be readable in any system, inside or outside my server. That is why I like flexraid.


I can remove any drive from my media server and plug it into a dock, or my desktop and read the contents. That is big feature that should not get overlooked.


It is just silly and unreasonable to think any solution today will last forever. Thinking about how and what happens when your ready to move on should be a consideration. I think unraid users overlook this and make this mistake.


The easiest solution is copy the data over from unraid before retiring it. That's really what I would do.
 

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ReiserFS, If I recall, was originally designed (By Hans Reiser, a guy who was convicted of murdering his wife and stuffing her body into the trunk of his car) for use under Linux. Even then, it wasn't considered stable by those who maintain the Linux kernel until very recently. Now, I've used Linux in work environments before, so I'm pretty comfortable with it, but I would have a panic attack if the kernel barfed an error on start up and threw me out to a bash prompt. All of my data would be trapped on a file system and I'd have no idea how to get to it. At least Windows does you the courtesy of tugging on your pant leg to warn you of impending disaster. Linux is not so courteous.


So, unRAID comes along, adopts this (at best) shaky, barely on par with EXT3 file system and people like the website (because it has limes. Everybody likes limes.) and sign on to it?


Lesson learned: Do your homework.
 

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Originally Posted by PobjoySpecial  /t/1472376/switching-from-unraid-to-whs2011-flexraid#post_23308949


You should send the memo to the hundreds of UnRAID users that have kept their servers on for years without a reboot.

Linux is rock solid and stable. No argument there. I don't consider reboots to be a selling point one way or the other. I schedule my WHS 2011 machine for a reboot once a week usually late night Sunday when everyone's sleeping. Never had a virus, never been hacked in any discernible way. I've also never lost anything because I couldn't recover data from my own drives. I have good tools for drive recovery, I have spare drives available and I'm not doing anything so exotic that I end up lost in a world of complexity. Linux has tools to, but I'll be damned if I know how to use them.
 

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Originally Posted by PobjoySpecial  /t/1472376/switching-from-unraid-to-whs2011-flexraid#post_23309099


For fun?

1) Install FTK Imager on Windows

2) Read disk.

3) Done.


UnRAID is dead simple to use. If you run into a problem, it has one of the best user communities I've ever seen. To each their own, but the mud you're slinging doesn't stick.
This. It's pretty clear that FlexRAID has a lot of fanboys here, but that doesn't necessarily make it a better system. I'm not going to argue the pros and cons of each setup because it's already been done to death. Suffice it to say that I've been using unRAID for over six years and it's been rock solid and a pleasure to use. The only issues I've ever had with a server setup is when I tried using FlexRAID. I switched back to unRAID and couldn't be happier. When I initially chose to go with unRAID I wasn't even aware of FlexRAID. To be honest, had I known about FlexRAID at the time, I'd be hard pressed to say which software I would have chosen. The idea of having to install it on top of an OS, use up a SATA port, and add another drive would have probably steered me towards unRAID anyway. It's just less crap to deal with. My idea of a server is a collection of drives that allow me to store and access data from any PC on my network. I just want to set it up and forget about it. Both programs allow me to do this so anything else is just extra, IMHO. Obviously, YMMV.


The issue of having a file system that's readable in Windows is mostly irrelevant for a server. Let's face it, most of us access the data on servers via our networks, not via direct drive access. UnRAID allows you to do this as well as any other server software. The filesystem that unRAID uses is completely transparent to other PCs on the network. What matters is whether you can access your data and transfer data to and from the server. Most of the features available with FlexRAID are also available in unRAID. I have yet to hear an overwhelming argument that places FlexRAID head and shoulders above unRAID. They both do what they're designed to do and they both do it well. The differences are more those of personal preference than performance or features. As media servers, they're both fine choices. The end user will never know the difference.


And WTF does Hans Reiser's personal history have to do with anything here?


FYI - There are other ways to read reiserfs disks in Windows:

http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=2057.msg14950#msg14950
 

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Originally Posted by captain_video  /t/1472376/switching-from-unraid-to-whs2011-flexraid/0_100#post_23309446


And WTF does Hans Reiser's personal history have to do with anything here?
Very much agreed
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Originally Posted by char  /t/1472376/switching-from-unraid-to-whs2011-flexraid/0_100#post_23305643


I am trying to switch my server from unraid to whs 2011+ flexraid
Chad, my biggest question here is why? From someone who *did* use whs 11 for a short while, I can tell you I wouldn't touch it again unless I was being paid
 

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Originally Posted by Dark_Slayer  /t/1472376/switching-from-unraid-to-whs2011-flexraid#post_23310642


Chad, my biggest question here is why? From someone who *did* use whs 11 for a short while, I can tell you I wouldn't touch it again unless I was being paid
He's not using WHS as his server app, just as the OS platform on which he can run FlexRAID. WHS seems to be the OS of choice for most FlexRAID users based on the number of posts on the subject. I assume it's because WHS is the least expensive Windows license that can be purchased for use with FlexRAID.
 
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