YES! This is the game I've been waiting for. More hyped for this than I was for FFXIII. Finished off Graces F now, and that's a GREAT game. I have high hopes for Xillia. Also, Xillia-2 sometime in 2014 (hopefully 1st quarter)
Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to get the game right away. Have to wait a month or so before I can pick it up. Oh well. Should have put it on pre-order. Won't make that mistake with Xillia-2 and Symphonia Chronicles.
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp /t/1418995/tales-of-xillia-coming-to-the-west#post_23608036
Can someone explain the combat of this game to me?
I love games like this, but I hate super fast combat that feels like nothing more than button mashing. I watched a combat video of the game and in 3 minutes of watching I still had no idea what was going on or how you even controlled the characters.
The tales of games are action based jrpgs. as such you might be able to beat the game by button mashing, but the tales of games are a lot deeper than that. for those that take the time to master the combat system, it can be extremely rewarding.
I havent played tales of xillia yet, but i am currently playing tales of graces. i can tell you the combat goes far beyond button mashing. with tales of graces each character has a wealth of normal combat moves they can do by virtue of using the left analogue stick and the attack button (X) in combination (for example, up + X is one move. down + X is another move, so on and so forth) these can be chained to form strings of comboes and depending on what combination you use them in has the character perform a different set of moves.
Each individual move has specific parameters attatched to them as well. In typical rpg fashion, enemies will be vulnerable to certain attributes ande resistant to others. which moves you want to perform against a specific enemy becomes extremely important if you want to defeat the enemy quickly (which garners bonuses) so you have to pay attention to what moves you are comboing together.
In addition to this, each character has a list of special moves (ougi) they can perform. Each character eventually learns a pretty robust list of moves, so there's plenty of variety to be had. these moves must be mapped to the circle button and again are unleashed by a combination of the left analogue + O. The special moves are generally more damaging thant the normal attacks but in
many cases can be even more specialized in their utility (and these special moves include buff and debuff spells as well as healing)
In addition to this, you can map additional special attacks to your right analogue stick, including special moves from your AI controlled party members. so you can be fighting an opponent, get hit and instantly command your party's healer to cast a healing spell with the flick of the right analogue stick rather than having to open the menue (which you can do if you want to) or you can simply map more of your active characters special moves to the right stick to double up on the number of special moves in battle..
Also keep in mind that the normal attacks and special attacks can be comboed together and whwn used properly can build up some massive combos to absolutely own the enemies in the game.
This is what the combat should look like when you decipher the combat system and know what you are doing.
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON /t/1418995/tales-of-xillia-coming-to-the-west#post_23622163
Most battles are over in seconds (the Tales games offer "Grade" for how well you do in battle that can be used to buy stuff in a NG+ run, time is a big factor)
The core combat is less complex than Smash Bros and you can beat the game without ever digging deep into the combo system. (But if you do, oh man can you destroy bosses)
The game is designed to be easily accessible to the masses. That's why I mentioned that you can button mash your way through the game. But the game is built with the Veteran Tales gamer in mind and as such, the combat systems have gotten deeper and deeper as the series has progressed, culminating in both Graces F ridiculously awesome combat system and Xillia's combat system with the new Link Arts system. You don't need to delve into the intricacies of the combat system, but if you do and enjoy that sort of thing, there's not really any Action JRPG out there with a better combat system. For example, Tales trups Star Ocean by a pretty large margin.
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Originally Posted by frankthetoad /t/1418995/tales-of-xillia-coming-to-the-west#post_23645042
PENDRAG0ON, I've never played a Tales game, but was thinking about picking up Graces f. Are these related story-wise? I'm trying not to buy too many games for the PS3 since I'll be getting the PS4 at release. Which would you suggest if you could only get one? Graces f or Xillia?
You can start with either Graces F or Xillia, as the stories are not related. Graces F doesn't have a very strong story (the characters are great though) but the battlesystem is considered by many Tales fans to be the best of the series. I would happen to agree. The battlesystem is of particularly high quality. Very deep and satisfying.
I haven't played Xillia yet (planning to get it in a few weeks) but many Tales fans say it has one of the best stories in a Tales game. It is generally liked, but is being criticized for a lack of content compared to the usual Tales game (which are jam packed with content, so Xillia probably compares very favorably with other JRPG's content wise, it's just "light" for a Tales game)
Also keep in mind that Tales of Xillia 2 (direct continuation of Xillia) is coming in 2014, so if you like Xillia, there will be more to be had later.
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON /t/1418995/tales-of-xillia-coming-to-the-west#post_23651646
Well... that was unexpected. Every Tales game has that twist where the story is turned on it's head, and Xillia's may be one of the most epic yet, and I barely know anything about what just happened!
I know about the twist...played through Abyss and playing through Graces F now. I might eventually do Vesperia but will need to get a 360 to do that. Maybe when the price drops below $150. The amount of content in Graces F is mind boggling. And I understand Vesperia is similar (especially the PS3 version...too bad we're not getting a localization of that). Can't wait to play Xillia and Xillia 2. Tales of is turning out the be the standout JRPG of the current age (along with Persona....if it ever decides to make a current gen appearance that is!)
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON /t/1418995/tales-of-xillia-coming-to-the-west#post_23651793
Vesperia 360 still has my favorite cast, their chemistry remains unmatched. The way they all play off each other just works so well. I can't see the PS3 version doing any better, Patty may have been planned but she was cut for a reason. If my Japanese was better I would play it, it is my favorite Tales game after all.
If buying a 360 just to play Vesperia and Magna Carta 2 is not okay with the wife, I might just get the Japanese version and printout the (likely massive) script translations from the net. That would be a giant pain in the arse I would think though.
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Very massive pain, and I like the English Cast better. Check the local pawn shops for an older console for dirt cheap and use it to play the exclusives you missed. Find one that includes some onboard memory, you probably won't need a hdd anyway.
There's a local pawn shop up the street. I'll probably check that place. Also, now that the next gen consoles are getting ready to come out, I'll check gamestop for people trading in their old consoles for credit on the new one. Hopefully They won't charge more than $100 for it, but I know how Gamestop can be about these sorts of things.
After you beat this one, while you are waiting for Tales of Xillia 2 to come out, you can go get Tales of Graces F and check out that combat system. (it's awesome) and see how much content usually goes into a Tales of game. (xillia is content lite compared to other games in the series)
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Originally Posted by frankthetoad /t/1418995/tales-of-xillia-coming-to-the-west/30#post_23842155
What other Tales games, that will play on my PS3, are worth grabbing? I'll have the Xillia plat this week and then it's on to Graces f. I'm really enjoying this game, so I'd like to play the others if they're any good.
The Trailer for Xillia 2 is up on RPGfan.com. I can't provide a link because my work computer wont let me go there (but I can come to this site!) but, yeah, it's worth checking out.
Finally got tales od xillia! my wife got it for me. thanks hun! now i'm going to be busy for some time. just need to make sure to beat it before xillia 2 is released (not to mention persona 5, drakengard 3, dragon age:inquisition etc)
Boo! I have the soundtrack that came with the game, just haven't opened it up yet. The opening theme song for Xillia is great. It's a huge omission to leave it out of the soundtrack (unless there are some licensing issues with selling the song outside of the game within the U.S. or E.U.?)
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