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 www.betterespresso.com/product/980


Looks like a Krell or an Audio Research amplifier.. Just got an Andreja premium espresso machine and I love it! All those Bloomindale's espresso machines look like garbage by comparison.
 

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It does look impressive! Can you plumb it directly into the water supply?
 

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It does look impressive! Can you plumb it directly into the water supply?

Yes you can with some more hardware but I don't think the water would be filtered.. other similar machines come outright with direct connect and filters.


In any case those machines are dirty cheap compared to some of those fully automatic $3,000+ plastic machines sold in consumer stores..
 

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Anyway this the coffee machine for the guy who has a turntable or two
 

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A good grinder is vital to good espresso.. Reason why one would want a not fully automatic espresso machine with a separate grinder or two on the side.. This coffee business is not unlike with a turntable..
 

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How about a vegetable juicer instead

I have a Breville stainless steel with which I make apple juice.
 

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I would never buy a $3,000 consumer espresso machine. Look first at what you can get for a $3,000 commercial grade espresso machine.. For fully automatic home use machine I would get a SAECO INCANTO SIRIUS ot a GAGGIA TITANUIM PLUS (same companies) which cost no more than $1,500; they even look like a coffee machine:

http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/Gag...p/scg10943.htm
 

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Mark, FWIW, I'm with you that the Jura is the king of fully automatic machines and I would love to own one. Having stated that, however, it is not in the same league as that Andreja Premium or any number of manual pull or semi-automatic machines.
This is a review of the Jura S9 that, while not the same as the Z5, accurately states the following:
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How does this product stack up? You'll have to read the review to find out. But I'll preface by saying this - the Jura-Capresso S9 has become our standard bearer benchmark for consumer super automatics. As such, our rating at the end of the review reflects how it rates against other super automatics. If the rating seems a bit high, keep this in mind - against a Rancilio Silvia, or an Isomac Tea, it'd probably garner a 4 or 5. Against other super automatics, the rating this machine gets is well deserved.

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As I saw the shot develop, well, it was no La Marzocco; heck, it wasn't even a Silvia. But as the crema formed, it had the look of "real" crema, not that false blond stuff that so many super autos seem to churn out. The crema wasn't as dark as I'd expect from a handcrafted shot, but it was a pleasing medium-dark golden brown, and looked like real crema, not "pressurized adapter" fake stuff.


The shot wasn't spectacular, it was on the thin side (the too fast extraction), but it was something I'd rank higher than pod espresso, and even higher than any "crema enhancer" espresso that you might get from a machine like the Solis SL70 (with the pressurized baskets) or a Saeco or Starbucks Barista.
 

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the Z5 also makes regular coffee:


come over and I will make you some coffee and espresso anytime

I am affraid your machine would fare poorly against mine.. Are you ISF by any chance
?? (they have done miracles to coffee machines, too)
 

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Jura Capresso Z5 is the best espresso machine IMO: and it is fully automatic: just keep it full of water and beans

http://www.stepup.com/product/obg-CA...08-msp58044612


where is the good Doctor?

Forget about what Refugio (aka Richie) says, I, like Mark Rubin feel the best machine I have ever owned is the Jura Capresso Z5 or their posh Z6. It too has a Burr grinder
 

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I've had my Andreja Premium for about a year now and love it. Super-automatics are not for me. I also roast my own beans which is great and saves a lot of money especially if you're pulling 21g triples every day. My wife can't stand the roasting but hey, priorities.


Pulling a shot.



Andreja and Rocky. When you read that the grinder is equally, if not more important than the espresso machine believe it. It's a solid grinder and a good value.



Inadvertant latte art. I call this one "pterodactyl"



The 4 M's of espresso.

-La Macchina (the machine)

-La Miscela (the blend of coffee)

-La Macinadosatore (the grind and dose)

-La Mano (the barista or operator)
 
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