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Zones...scene's....aren't we talking about lights being on/dimmed or my one room? haha


Maybe I am missing something..


I will have one room with lets say 8 recessed cans (LED likely).
I would like them to be turned on to pre-determined levels (i.e back 2 dim to half output, while rest are off...or all can's on a 1/4 output when movie is done)


Is this a scene? Or a zone? Or is the scene what I want each zone of lights to do (say 4 zones of 2 lights to total the 8 lights in the room).
In Vizia lingo, a "zone" is a group of dimmers and lights that are controlled as a unit. A "scene" is a group of zones=dimmers set to different levels.
So in your example, you might have 2 dimmers = 2 zones. One zone would include the 2 cans in the back, and another zones with the other 6 cans. Then Scene 1 might have both dimers on full, a second scene might have the back zone on, and the front zone off, a third scene might have both zones a 1/2 level, and a fourth scene might have both zones off.
 

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In Vizia lingo, a "zone" is a group of dimmers and lights that are controlled as a unit. A "scene" is a group of zones=dimmers set to different levels.
So in your example, you might have 2 dimmers = 2 zones. One zone would include the 2 cans in the back, and another zones with the other 6 cans. Then Scene 1 might have both dimers on full, a second scene might have the back zone on, and the front zone off, a third scene might have both zones a 1/2 level, and a fourth scene might have both zones off.

Thanks LeBon!


So in reading through the Leviton info and knowing my setup:
  • one room,
  • 8 cans,
  • lets say 3 zones (ZONE1 - back two cans, ZONE2 middle 4 cans, ZONE3 front two cans)
  • and then 4 "scenes" - all off, all dimmed to X level (tbd), front 2 on at 75%, back 2 on at 75%) - or whatever setup I finally decide on
Am I correct in assuming I need the following pieces:


Scene Controller - http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=VRCS4-MRZ&section=44147&minisite=10251
Scene Capable Dimmers (3 - for the 3 zones??) - http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=VRMX1-1LZ&section=44140&minisite=10251
Remote - http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=VRMR1-SG&section=44144&minisite=10251


I will be using LED's and I do want to keep it down in terms of cost (i.e. the cheaper remote ;))...so if I could do something cheaper int he above setup please do let me know :)


Can this setup be controlled by an ipad app "if" I wanted down the road...not important now just asking about future possibilities.


Again thanks...and happy new year!
 

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You're on the right track with the components needed.

I plan to control my Vizia RF+ via a VeraEdge controller and iRule running on an iPad.

As I understand it, you could also control with IR, using a GlobalCache IR gateway from iRule.

Thanks! Will continue to investigate this stuff haha
 

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manfrog - I may be making an obvious point but I presume you're running a separate line or circuit from each of your can-groupings back to your switching location (i.e. one line for the back 2 cans, a second for the middle 4, and a third for the front 2).

Also, be aware of limitations when using certain LED setups. For example, I use regular halogens in my recessed pinhole ceiling lights, incandescent in my chandelier, and color-changing LEDs on my screen lights. The LEDs are not dimmable from the dimmer (my Lutron Grafik Eye in this case) and required a separate power switching module (which connects to between the dimmer and the LED power supply) to interface it with my dimmer. No big deal, but don't presume you can add LEDs and have them work with your particular dimmer. In my case, the only way to dim my programmable LEDs is via their own remote. Wasn't an issue for me because once I programmed the color scheme I wanted I didn't need to do anything else. I only want them full on or off anyway. The only thing I miss is having them fade off as opposed to switch off.
 

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Controlling Grafik Eye by ZigBee or Zwave

Does anybody know of a way to control the Grafik Eye by ZigBee or ZWave? I know there is a Lutron QSE-10. I could go from Zwave to contact closure to the QSE-10 to the Grafik Eye. But I am looking for something a little more elegant and less costly.
 

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Thanks LeBon!


So in reading through the Leviton info and knowing my setup:
  • one room,
  • 8 cans,
  • lets say 3 zones (ZONE1 - back two cans, ZONE2 middle 4 cans, ZONE3 front two cans)
  • and then 4 "scenes" - all off, all dimmed to X level (tbd), front 2 on at 75%, back 2 on at 75%) - or whatever setup I finally decide on
Am I correct in assuming I need the following pieces:


Scene Controller - http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=VRCS4-MRZ&section=44147&minisite=10251
Scene Capable Dimmers (3 - for the 3 zones??) - http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=VRMX1-1LZ&section=44140&minisite=10251
Remote - http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductDetail.jsp?partnumber=VRMR1-SG&section=44144&minisite=10251


I will be using LED's and I do want to keep it down in terms of cost (i.e. the cheaper remote ;))...so if I could do something cheaper int he above setup please do let me know :)


Can this setup be controlled by an ipad app "if" I wanted down the road...not important now just asking about future possibilities.


Again thanks...and happy new year!
Too many components for just one room. The 3104 might be more feasable. Everything at one central unit...
 

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Too many components for just one room. The 3104 might be more feasable. Everything at one central unit...

Can you explain? My thought (and I have seen it used on builds here)...dimmer connected to each "zone" (or set of lights I want to be able to control independently. So in this scenario there would be 3 zones. These dimmers switches would be hidden in room.


Scene controller would be the only thing you see and it controls lighting for what I would be doing in the room (i.e scene 1, scene 2, etc...)
 

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If the goal is ip control have you considered Philips hue? Should be cost competitive and way easier to "install".

I have an HAI Omni system and wondered if I should even use the grafik eye setup, seems to me I could just use UPB switches and have the same results for a lot less, or am I missing something??
 

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I think it depends on your setup and goals. I have 6 zones. That would look pretty odd with 6 separate full sized dimmers.

I also dont really want individual controls for each zone.

That said things like the Philips hue have a huge advantage in install. It took me months to figure out how I wanted my zones arranged. Redoing the wiring after everything is finished and painted would be an awfull terrible pain.

In the end I am happy I went with the gfx. It is intuitive for my family and still gives me all the control (and remote control) I have needed.
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I got GRX-3103 system, and I'm able to add it as a device in my Harmony Ultimate Home, but I can't control it with the remote. Could someone tell me what I should do?
 

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I got GRX-3103 system, and I'm able to add it as a device in my Harmony Ultimate Home, but I can't control it with the remote. Could someone tell me what I should do?
Does the 3103 respond to commands from the Lutron OEM remote (assuming you have one)? That would tell you if the problem is with your grafik eye or how you programmed the Harmony remote.
 

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I got GRX-3103 system, and I'm able to add it as a device in my Harmony Ultimate Home, but I can't control it with the remote. Could someone tell me what I should do?
That's the problem with a harmony in these situations. You either have to have the main base unit "flash" an IR target in your equipment area that ships that IR code over Cat 5 to an IR emitter stuck to the face of your Grafik Eye IR target, or the Logitech base unit has to be line-of-site to the Grafik Eye itself so the Grafik Eye can receive the IR signals.

The hardwired control of the Grafik Eye is RS-485, FYI. They make IP control for the Grafik Eye but you would need to buy that separate interface.
 

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That's the problem with a harmony in these situations. You either have to have the main base unit "flash" an IR target in your equipment area that ships that IR code over Cat 5 to an IR emitter stuck to the face of your Grafik Eye IR target, or the Logitech base unit has to be line-of-site to the Grafik Eye itself so the Grafik Eye can receive the IR signals.

The hardwired control of the Grafik Eye is RS-485, FYI. They make IP control for the Grafik Eye but you would need to buy that separate interface.
I use the remote not the hub to control my Grafik Eye. My Grafik Eye is actually designed to work with Beo 4 remote out of the box, so I guess Harmony needs to learn the IR from the Beo 4 remote first. I'm going to order one used Beo 4 off ebay to test.
 

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Can anyone point me to an earlier post or provided some advise regarding using iRule with a Grafik Eye QSGRJ-6P and QSE-CI-NWK-E. I have been using iRule successfully for several months on regular devices (via GC-100). I just bought my Grafik Eye and the Ethernet adapter. Using the Lutron IPConfig tool, it is recognizing that the Grafik Eye is connected on my network. In iRule though, when I go to try to configure the device it only seems to allow me to assign it to the GC-100 which it isn't directly connected to. How do I get thing working?
 

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Can anyone point me to an earlier post or provided some advise regarding using iRule with a Grafik Eye QSGRJ-6P and QSE-CI-NWK-E. I have been using iRule successfully for several months on regular devices (via GC-100). I just bought my Grafik Eye and the Ethernet adapter. Using the Lutron IPConfig tool, it is recognizing that the Grafik Eye is connected on my network. In iRule though, when I go to try to configure the device it only seems to allow me to assign it to the GC-100 which it isn't directly connected to. How do I get thing working?
I just connected my GrafikEye to iRule via IR using the GC-100, but you'll need to add the Ethernet adapter in iRule as a Gateway (like the GC-100 is). Then hopefully there's already a set of "network" commands in the GrafikEye device for iRule - otherwise you'll have to add those.

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