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I finished watching this earlier tonight...overall I liked it but felt Hill House was the stronger of the 2...I had read that Bly Manor was more of a love story then horror and that definitely was the case...some interesting concepts such as dream hopping and being 'tucked away' which got a bit convoluted understanding the rules but by the end everything comes together

overall I liked the characters , the 2 child actors playing Flora and Miles in particular were excellent and have a bright future...I agree with @lax01 that it was a bit too long and they should have shortened the series from 9 episodes to around 6...things felt a bit drawn out at times...overall I give it a solid B

Dolby Vision was solid and the audio was excellent (great usage of the rear speakers and surround activity)
 

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I was close to dropping Bly Manor around episode 5 or 6 but stuck with it. Ended up liking the show overall. The last few episodes were really good but at first I thought one might have jumped the shark when it focused on a brand new set of characters but it turned out really good and it also was a key episode. Hill House I thought was perfect with every episode building on the last. Bly was way to long for the story they told and didn't flow until the end.

So there were sub plots that I really liked but didn't fit the story. They were just put in to confuse the situation or be spooky for spooky sake. With some minor tweaks in the story they could have been part of the mail story. I get people see guilt and ghost as one in the same but they weren't in this show. I also didn't really buy the situations completely regarding harry potter and evil clone. What are the odds not ghost would show up for people dealing with a ghost house. Just thought it was dumb but like I said I like the plots especially when I realized why harry potter's glasses were glowing, because he is a wizard. I missed the bus on that one until long after I finished the show, Harry didn't though.

The kids were very big stands out. Great little actors The boy did a better job with his changes but the girl was better as a girl. I liked the acting from everybody really. Would like to have seen more from Robbie. He never got to talk about his zombie friends or how he stole superman's mustache, I thought his love story was more meaningful than the main one. However, I really liked the main love story. I can see why people call it a love story even with the toxic love story. Everybody is in some kind love situation.
 

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Haunting of Bly Manor's T'Nia Miller breaks down Hannah's unknown backstory and mind-bending twist

Warning: This article contains spoilers for The Haunting of Bly Manor.

T'Nia Miller is having a moment — or as she would put it, a journey.

That journey, which started with her training at England's Guildford School of Acting and has seen her star in a number of British series including Doctor Who, Witless, Marcella, and Years and Years, has recently culminated in her starring in not one, but two major Netflix shows this year: Sex Education and The Haunting of Bly Manor.
In the case of the latter show, a standalone follow-up to creator Mike Flanagan's Haunting of Hill House, Miller plays the perpetually lovely, gorgeously costumed housekeeper Hannah Grose. In the season's most shocking, twisty, and heartbreaking episode, it's revealed that she's actually been dead since episode 1, having been pushed down a well by Miles Wingrave (Benjamin Evan Ainsworth), who is being possessed by the vengeful ghost of Peter Quint (Oliver Jackson-Cohen).

Calling from France before a planned walk with her dog, Miller took EW on her journey as Hannah — from being kept in the dark about the twist, to how the housekeeper's arc has resonated with her, to what she thinks Hannah and her beloved Owen (Rahul Kohli) would be getting up to had it all gone differently (hint: think lots and lots of sex).

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Were you familiar with Haunting of Hill House before signing on for Bly Manor?
T'NIA MILLER:
When it came through, I wasn't that familiar with Hill House. And so I had to watch the show, and I fell in love straight away. In fact, I binge-watched it to the point where I had to force myself to take a break. And I didn't know much about this character, and because I trust Mike's work, I said yes. Everything else from there was such a gift because I didn't know what was coming for that character. I didn't know what the outcome was. It was a brilliant surprise. I was thrilled.

Did you have any reservations about her, since you knew very little going in?
I didn't have any reservations, but initially I didn't want to play the maid or the help for political and historical reasons. With this, I went against what I believe, because I think all the central characters were the help and were all there serving these beautiful children, right? The story was beautiful, and she was such a beautiful, beautiful character.
So you didn't know your character was dead going into the show. When did you find out?
No, Mike was sneaky! He kept that from me. I got through episode 3 and I remember getting to the end, and I was like, "Ah man, s—, that's not episode 4." So I had to sort of wait for [episodes] 4, 5, and 6. Then Mike was emailing me and asking me, "Have you read episode 5? It's some really special stuff for you." That's the way he put it, right? This is "very special stuff for you." So I thought, okay, maybe there's a couple of things. So when I found that she was a ghost, I thought, this is a status change, isn't it?

And what was your reaction?
I rejoiced, because I get to play a ghost! It's like being a 5-year-old and pretending to be an astronaut or that you could fly. It's a fantasy in some respects, so that was really cool. And then I was also kind of heartbroken. Then it was like, "Oh, s—, how do I play this? What do I do navigating that?" It's so different from anything I've done before. How do you keep that true and not give the game away? But Mike knew from the very beginning, so he'd say, "Perhaps you could touch your head a bit." There are some clues if you look back to episode 4, there's some clues that something's not quite right, like her not ever finishing a tea or drink, or the wine bottle never goes down, and obviously her seeing the cracking in the wall. Even when I was reading it, this crack keeps coming up in the script. I just thought it was an old house and it was falling apart. Like my house! [Laughs]

In the episode, it's briefly mentioned that Hannah was previously married to a man named Sam. Did you and Mike discuss what the background was there?
We did speak about it, and I just shared my thoughts basically, because like I said, I didn't have the script by then. I knew that her husband had left her, so I sort of made up this backstory of Sam being the most handsome, charming man in the village that every girl wanted, but she bagged him. And he's gone and left her for a younger model. With her heart being broken by Sam, it was very hard for her to allow anybody else in that place of intimacy. I think so often we're ruled by fear in relationships. A lot of people get jaded, they carry their past relationships into a new one, and I think that's very true for Hannah, poor love.

Why was Hannah in such denial about her death, do you think? The other ghosts seemed to be aware of their situation pretty early on.
I think because that's how she has been living her life, she's suppressed. Whereas the other ghosts are going for what they want — yeah, they're running away from demons and they're frightened, but at the same time, they're going for what they want. Whereas Hannah is completely content as long as she can be in her world. Also, she made a promise to Charlotte, the children's mother, that she would be there. I'm a mother myself, and all the time you suppress your own feelings or what you're going through and you put on a face for the children because they need you and their needs ultimately come first, and I think it's exactly the same for Hannah. She had a great excuse. These babies need me, Owen needs me, Dani needs me. I am the glue that keeps everyone together.

This season deals heavily with the power of memory and the themes of love versus possession. Did any of that resonate for you personally?
Yeah, I think so. I mean like she says, possession and love people get mixed up all the time. And it's always quite baffling to me, the idea of being possessed by another person, because we're born free spirits, right? I always said to my children growing up, your soul could be older than mine, but just in this lifetime, I happen to be older. There's a great song about how the children, they are the daughters and sons of life. They come through you, but they don't belong to you. And I think that's what it is, you know, these energies come through us, but no one belongs to anybody else. So personally, I just think that we have to meet each other in that space of pure love, without condition, without expectation and being and living in the present. And that's a bloody hard job to do because our egos and insecurities get in the way. I think that's a long-term life journey and lesson that I am personally having an inquiry with. That's my inquiry. How do I stay true to love without ego? How do you do that?

In episode 5 we see Hannah definitively say she'd go to Paris with Owen, but of course she can't because she's dead. Had things gone differently, what do you think Hannah and Owen's life would be like in France?
They would have had a wonderful life. I really do believe that. She'd be cleaning and tasting things, and she'd be maybe suggesting menu ideas. They would have the best sex because they've had this pent-up frustration for all these years. I think they would really be going at it. And I think they would take holidays or have a garden where they'd grow vegetables and be calling Jamie [Amelia Eve] for tips and all that sort of stuff. I think they would have a really beautiful time. She would probably feel guilty that she can never have children because she was too old. I think that would weigh on her mind. So, perhaps they'd adopt a dog, but it would be wonderful.

 
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