[Seegs108]





According to Amazon, It looks like the first episode of Peter Jackson's trilogy will be available on Blu-ray and Blu-ray 3D on March 19, 2013. You can make your pre-orders on Amazon's website. I remember when any installment of Lord of the Rings came to DVD we had to wait till the following summer to have access to the movie. Lucky us!


Specs and supplements have yet to be revealed, but suggested list price for the Blu-ray is set at $29.98. No 48FPS release has been hinted at and for obvious reasons. Maybe we'll see it re-released in 4K when there is an official 4K format and hardware has built in support for 48fps material.




Source: http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Disc_Announcements/Warner_Brothers/The_Hobbit_An_Unexpected_Journey_Blu-ray_Up_for_Pre-Order/11031

 

[Franin]

Excellent haven't seen this yet will now wait for blu ray.

 

[nograveconcern]

Are there going to be extended & theatrical editions like LOTR? I've already had to buy LOTR trilogy 3 times. I'm hoping to only buy this one once...until 4k comes out.

 

[giomania]

Looks like they took it down, as I cannot find it on Amazon.


Mark

 

[Rach]

After rereading the book last year, the film is quite different. It appears they tried to tie it directly to the LOR. Regardless, excellent film and a day one purchase. If you want to experience the 48 frame rate just put on auto motion plus or whatever frame interpolation program your tv has...if that's your thing, almost no difference.

 

[edlittle]

The extended edition apparently is coming out in October.

 

[Mike_WI]



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Originally Posted by edlittle  /t/1455389/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-blu-ray-and-blu-ray-3d-up-for-pre-order#post_22905666


The extended edition apparently is coming out in October.

Any more info on the Ext Ed?


Mike

 

[Flavius]

I don't see why 2D BluRay can't support 48FPS video?? BluRay video games support 60FPS for gods sake!

 

[Kimeran]

I never saw this in theaters so I am really happy it is coming to video so soon! With the cost of movie theaters these days I just can't justify it...not when you can rent it through directv cinema and still get it with hd audio and 1080p for $5....if I had better internet I could rent it through amazon for less....but of course I have bad internet

 

[RLBURNSIDE]

They could also release 48hz using two discs, one for even and one for odd frames, that way those of us with high end PCs and splice it back together.


I expect in reality, an h265 encoding might make it possible to squeeze in 2x24x3D = 96hz of 1080p data on one Bluray. Then maybe they can also send it down the wire via streaming. Interpolation is NOT as good as authentic speed, although it can still make you woozy. I found some scenes absolutely rocked (esp outdoor vistas and panning), and some seemed ...blah. Like the opening part. But for a guy who saw it both in 24hz and 48hz, and is now used to interpolation and smoothing, I found that the real 48hz instead of fake 60hz is much better. Perhaps they just didn't get the timings or the science of the panning right. Trust me, after ten years of 48p video, we'll get used to it and think 24p is gabage. So many TV shows are in 24hz instead of 60, it's such a frikken shame.

 

[Seegs108]



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Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE  /t/1455389/the-hobbit-an-unexpected...lu-ray-3d-up-for-pre-order/0_50#post_22907548


They could also release 48hz using two discs, one for even and one for odd frames, that way those of us with high end PCs and splice it back together.

That doesn't make any sense. If they were going to offer in any form as 48 fps they will make sure the studio masters it. Depending on when (and if) they release it at that frame rate it will be distributed by either digital download or if a new format for dedicated players is available that supports 48fps at them time, that format.

 

[pokekevin]



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Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE  /t/1455389/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-blu-ray-and-blu-ray-3d-up-for-pre-order#post_22907548


They could also release 48hz using two discs, one for even and one for odd frames, that way those of us with high end PCs and splice it back together.


I expect in reality, an h265 encoding might make it possible to squeeze in 2x24x3D = 96hz of 1080p data on one Bluray. Then maybe they can also send it down the wire via streaming. Interpolation is NOT as good as authentic speed, although it can still make you woozy. I found some scenes absolutely rocked (esp outdoor vistas and panning), and some seemed ...blah. Like the opening part. But for a guy who saw it both in 24hz and 48hz, and is now used to interpolation and smoothing, I found that the real 48hz instead of fake 60hz is much better. Perhaps they just didn't get the timings or the science of the panning right. Trust me, after ten years of 48p video, we'll get used to it and think 24p is gabage. So many TV shows are in 24hz instead of 60, it's such a frikken shame.

I still didn't like 48fps. Also even if H265 allowed it I assume we all would probably have to get new players!

 

[Franin]



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Originally Posted by giomania  /t/1455389/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-blu-ray-and-blu-ray-3d-up-for-pre-order#post_22905572


Looks like they took it down, as I cannot find it on Amazon.


Mark

It doesn't seem to be there anymore.

 

[Dan Hitchman]

The only way to get 48 fps and 60 fps support would be to buy a new TV with HFR cinematography support and then play downloaded UHD files (on what platform, exactly?) or UHD discs off a new UHD capable player. And that's if the standards body would include those new high frame rates and certify them to work in all new A/V devices.


They don't even have a 1080p 60 fps mode... it's just at 720p. Very backwards thinking when the BDA was setting their Blu-ray specs.


Blu-ray's specs. are now set in stone. They could shoe-horn in 3D because MPEG-4 H.264 already had the Multi-View Codec system (used to compress the information of one of the eye views) implemented and approved by the BDA. They just used it for 3D encoding rather than some other purpose.

 

[moviegeek]

I thought it was too soon to be released, it just came out in December and is still playing at the theaters.

 

[Dan Hitchman]



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Originally Posted by moviegeek  /t/1455389/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-blu-ray-and-blu-ray-3d-up-for-pre-order#post_22911091


I thought it was too soon to be released, it just came out in December and is still playing at the theaters.

It'll probably be out in May or June. The March release is seemingly premature.

 

[fight4yu]

I also don't like dipping x times.. when the 2nd and 3rd one comes out, and then the complete package, and then the extended version, and then the extended version + specials, and then the LOTR + Hobbit series grand finale special..

And then 4K comes along, and the cycle starts.. and before long, there will be 8K

I will just buy this once

 

[Devedander]



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Originally Posted by Flavius  /t/1455389/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-blu-ray-and-blu-ray-3d-up-for-pre-order#post_22906748


I don't see why 2D BluRay can't support 48FPS video?? BluRay video games support 60FPS for gods sake!

I'm not even sure how to start on this one...

 

[Dan Hitchman]



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Originally Posted by Flavius  /t/1455389/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-blu-ray-and-blu-ray-3d-up-for-pre-order#post_22906748


I don't see why 2D BluRay can't support 48FPS video?? BluRay video games support 60FPS for gods sake!

Current TV's don't know what to do with 48 fps video. The Blu-ray spec. would have to be changed, the H.264 codec would have to be recoded, and new players would have to be built.


You'll just have to wait and see what UHD media and displays bring.

 

[Seegs108]



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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman  /t/1455389/the-hobbit-an-unexpected...lu-ray-3d-up-for-pre-order/0_50#post_22915250


Current TV's don't know what to do with 48 fps video. The Blu-ray spec. would have to be changed, the H.264 codec would have to be recoded, and new players would have to be built.


You'll just have to wait and see what UHD media and displays bring.

This isn't entirely true. There are plenty of TV's (and almost all 1080p home theater projectors) will accept a 48hz input. H.264 can most definitely be used for 48fps material. The only thing that would need to change is the Blu-ray spec itself and you would need to have new players built to that spec. They could technically release this now at 48fps for intended playback from PCs. But that isn't going to happen.