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Originally Posted by mbrennem /forum/post/20636407


Had an interesting experience last night. I was watching parts of the movie and came to the mountain scene. I had been well aware of this green controversy and could see some semblance of the green tint but it seemed fairly minor to me. When I got to the shot with the close-up of the ring in the snow on the mountain, I paused it and the snow sure looked white to my eyes (even though I knew rationally that it was not pure white).


I then went into my TV's menu to play with the tint a bit (just to see what might happen) and I accidently hit the button to change to the tuner input which showed static (like when you are not tuned to a proper channel).


When I returned to the paused image, the snow looked much more blue/green than before, much like the screenshots posted here. BUT within seconds my brain adjusted and I was fooled into seeing basically white snow again. I could actually perceive the colours shifting even though the image was completely static. I tried it again (changing to static and back) and saw the exact same phenomenon.


Don't really know my point, but it was an interesting accidental experiment. If you are seeing pure white snow in that scene, try switching your display to another input for 10 seconds (ideally black-and-white static if possible), then switch back to the disc and concentrate on the color of the image.

It's also possible that PJ had the same experience, or the colourist. The thing is that I am a Graphic Designer. My mind is used to colour changes on screen. I will see the green, and my mind will not correct it as much.
 

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I watched Lord of the Rings yesterday at a friend's house, his display is professionally calibrated and the scenes in question had the green tint green, then I took it and watched it on my display which has not been professionally calibrated and the scenes in question also had the green tint.


I think calibrating a display is very important but not essential to notice what's happened on this particular release. Clouds and snow have always looked white on my display no matter the movie.


I think it's a matter of taste and/or the "director's intent" in this case, but to deny that there's a green tint in many of these scenes makes no sense from my stand point.


After many years I have come to expect Lord of the Rings to look a certain way, the changes on this release on color timing are not subtle, after many, many releases we are now told that this is how the movie was suppossed to look all alone, really, well it didn't, it didn't look like this 10 years ago when I went to see it in the theater or in any of the many dvd flavors that we got in that period.


Mr jackson has all right in the world to change color timing of an established classic to better fit his upcoming movie The hobbit, but it clearly has nothing to do with calibrated and none calibrated displays, the movie has an exaggerated green tint in some scenes and noticable always present running through the whole movie's DNA.
 

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Just because a set is calibrated doesn't mean that it is accurate re color display. The various review threads are full of examples of sets which have color decoder and gamut errors. So, while calibration is important, having the right display is also important. I have 3 sets, all ISF calibrated by the same person, and I can assure you that they do not all display certain colors equally well, esp. red and green.
 

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Just based on the responses showing up in this thread now that more people can see it for themselves it seems clear that the majority of people will not have a problem with how this movie looks. I really wouldn't bypass picking this up just because of the screen caps.

The same can be said about the TE.


The contrast boost on the EE of FOTR made a lot of scenes dark and lack some detail when I compared the same scenes with the TE.


Btw, the majority of the time when they show close ups of any of the hobbits in FOTR, they still look waxy like the TE.

I agree that some close ups on the EE have better detail but a lot of the hobbit faces look smooth like wax.

I guess if you have beard, then some detail was restored.


The TE of FOTR appears to not been a total waste of money or a disasterous transfer as some try to claim and justify now that the EE has been released.

Yes, the EE has some better details but it's not like the entire EE version of FOTR is a night and day difference to the TE.
 

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So just a thought.


If Jackson had come out and said "whoops! There was an error in the mastering. Sorry, we will get a corrected version out ASAP..."

would everyone who doesn't see any green or have a problem send in their discs for an exchange?
 

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Originally Posted by Dave Mack /forum/post/20636971


So just a thought.


If Jackson had come out and said "whoops! There was an error in the mastering. Sorry, we will get a corrected version out ASAP..."

would everyone who doesn't see any green or have a problem send in their discs for an exchange?

They would run out the door looking for a USPS office.
 

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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman /forum/post/20636999


And thanks to the green tint, during some dark scenes, Froto or Sam's face look like they are about to get sick.

Is that before o after they ate the wild mushrooms?
 

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Originally Posted by Trackman /forum/post/20636946


Just because a set is calibrated doesn't mean that it is accurate re color display. The various review threads are full of examples of sets which have color decoder and gamut errors. So, while calibration is important, having the right display is also important. I have 3 sets, all ISF calibrated by the same person, and I can assure you that they do not all display certain colors equally well, esp. red and green.

I don't know why people are talking about calibration and then saying that the screenshots don't look like their TV. If the screenshots don't look like your TV then either your TV is calibrated wrongly, or your monitor is calibrated wrongly. You can't have two devices calibrated properly and showing different colours. The screenshots are using a digital collection of numbers, and the same numbers are being sent to your TV. being as the numbers do not change, the screenshots are 100% accurate to a TV. But If your TV is Plasma, LCD, Rear projection... you may get brighter results. But you should not get green as white. Nobody so far has posted white snow. The people who say it looks white for some reason cannot post a screenshot. And another thing.. not one person so far has said that they see white snow on their monitor.
 

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Here are the specs for the discs:

Video bitrate of 29-30Mbps across the series.

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Can someone tell me which version of the set was this ? US or some other reason ?
 

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Originally Posted by Pincho /forum/post/20637121


I don't know why people are talking about calibration and then saying that the screenshots don't look like their TV. If the screenshots don't look like your TV then either your TV is calibrated wrongly, or your monitor is calibrated wrongly. You can't have two devices calibrated properly and showing different colours.

That is correct, in theory. In reality it is practically impossible to calibrate two displays to match 100% absolutely. There will always be some, albeit small, differences. The main problem is that to use two displays to compare images, they'd first have to be side by side so you have both images in your field of view at the same time. The comparison is invalid if the displays are in separate rooms, for example. Additionally both images should be viewed on source devices and displays using the same levels (16-235 or 0-255), simply to minimize possible errors.
 

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Originally Posted by pteittinen /forum/post/20637174


That is correct, in theory. In reality it is practically impossible to calibrate two displays to match 100% absolutely. There will always be some, albeit small, differences. The main problem is that to use two displays to compare images, they'd first have to be side by side so you have both images in your field of view at the same time. The comparison is invalid if the displays are in separate rooms, for example. Additionally both images should be viewed on source devices and displays using the same levels (16-235 or 0-255), simply to minimize possible errors.

Green shouldn't turn white though. The photoshop colour picker actually tells you the colour that you should see numerically. Who's going to argue with numbers?
 

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The green/teal tint is very noticeable to me. I can't imagine that this color grading is really what Peter Jackson wanted for this film. Until he explicity states himself that he approved this, I'll continue to believe that WB is behind this regardless of the press release they issued.


Beyond the scenes that are typically being referenced to point out the tint, there are so many other parts that just don't look right. Gandalf is no longer Gandalf the Grey, but Gandalf the Green. His grey cloth outfit now looks light green. The scene where Gadalf goes to visit Saruman and they are in the tower talking before they duel, Saruman's hair looks like he put green dye in it instead of it being a brilliant white color.


Some of the dark scenes also look too dark to me and detail is lost in the shadows.


Before someone questions whether my display is calibrated, yes my Panasonic 54" G10 was professionally calibrated.


Now, I can still enjoy the film even with the tint being present. The level of detail in the film is tremendous minus some of the darker scenes. As was noted by others, my eyes tend to kind of adjust to the picture and I start to perceive the green/teal tint as white after a few minutes.


If Peter Jackson really intended the film to look like this, then so be it, but I don't think he made a wise choice.
 

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Originally Posted by Pincho /forum/post/20637187


Green shouldn't turn white though. The photoshop colour picker actually tells you the colour that you should see numerically. Who's going to argue with numbers?

This is absolutely correct. I wasn't arguing otherwise.
 

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Originally Posted by Mark Booth /forum/post/20635790


Regarding this shot:


Finally got to this scene in the movie, and on my display it looks like the bottom shot - no green cast at all. I do tend to run my Sony SXRD projector on the cool side of color temperature (the 'high' setting), however, unless I go to the extreme warm end the colors look quite natural to my eyes.


Perhaps it has already been suggested, but for people who's display appears to emphasize green (or who are more sensitive to it) try simply adjusting the color temperature.
 

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Originally Posted by ca1ore /forum/post/20637215


Finally got to this scene in the movie, and on my display it looks like the bottom shot - no green cast at all. I do tend to run my Sony SXRD projector on the cool side of color temperature (the 'high' setting), however, unless I go to the extreme warm end the colors look quite natural to my eyes.


Perhaps it has already been suggested, but for people who's display appears to emphasize green (or who are more sensitive to it) try simply adjusting the color temperature.

That's fine, but sooner or later you will watch a film with a bright night scene.
 

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Originally Posted by Dave Mack /forum/post/20636971


So just a thought.


If Jackson had come out and said "whoops! There was an error in the mastering. Sorry, we will get a corrected version out ASAP..."

would everyone who doesn't see any green or have a problem send in their discs for an exchange?

Sure I'd get a new one for free and why not?

Regardless of the ongoing pointless discussion in this thread, I like what I've watched so far better than any version up to now.


If people are really so upset and outraged, posting over and over here is not going to get them what they want.


Organize an e-mail campaign or easier yet post your feelings on Jackson's FaceBook page.


Unlike many here who don't like FOTR, I'm not castigating or insulting those who feel differently than I do.


And like you said earlier Dave, this thread is like a dysfunctional family reunion. Star Wars has all the potential for getting really nasty.
 

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Originally Posted by 42Plasmaman /forum/post/20636951


The same can be said about the TE.


The contrast boost on the EE of FOTR made a lot of scenes dark and lack some detail when I compared the same scenes with the TE.


Btw, the majority of the time when they show close ups of any of the hobbits in FOTR, they still look waxy like the TE.

I agree that some close ups on the EE have better detail but a lot of the hobbit faces look smooth like wax.

I guess if you have beard, then some detail was restored.


The TE of FOTR appears to not been a total waste of money or a disasterous transfer as some try to claim and justify now that the EE has been released.

Yes, the EE has some better details but it's not like the entire EE version of FOTR is a night and day difference to the TE.

Agreed. It looks like dynamic range has suffered in the EE from all the digital tinkering.


I don't need a professionally calibrated display to see that.
 
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