The New PQ Tier Thread for Blu-Ray - Rankings

SuprSlow · Aug 4, 2009

Notice: This is the older, out-of-date version of the list. The active PQ Tiers can be found at the following link:

Blu-ray Picture Quality Tiers

Welcome to the Blu-Ray Picture Quality Tier List

"Oculi plus vident quam oculus" - "Several eyes see more than only one"

Last Database Update: May 1, 2012 by the Phantom Stranger

THIS THREAD IS INTENDED TO BE A "READ-ONLY" MASTER LIST FOR THE PQ TIER RANKINGS. ALL EXTRANEOUS POSTS WILL BE DELETED WITHOUT WARNING.

PLEASE CONTACT PHANTOM STRANGER BY PM FOR PROBLEMS OR ERRORS IN THE TIERS

PLEASE USE THE FOLLOWING THREAD FOR ALL DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS:

( http://www.avsforum.com/forum/newestpost/858316/the-new-pq-tier-thread-for-blu-ray-discussion )

Click one of the links below to jump directly to a specific Tier:

Tier 0 - Blu | Tier 1 - Gold | Tier 2 - Silver | Tier 3 - Bronze | Tier 4 - Copper | Tier 5 - Coal | Placement Holdings

Tier 0 [Blu] will be maintained in absolute order from the best to worst picture quality. Tiers 1 through 5 are alphabetized within each sub-tier.

Click here to see an archived copy of the original PQ Tiers list that preserved the original ordering of all discs at the time.

Each Blu-ray now links to its respective information page on the Cinema Squid website with multiple reviews and specifications. The older HDDB links are broken at the moment and will soon be removed.

If you're looking for a particular title, just scroll down to the page and press Ctrl + F or (+F on a Mac). Then enter the name of the movie in the box that pops up.

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Please Read Before Making a Recommendation or Specific Placement:

We strive to honor all user feedback and discussion when considering the final placement of any title. We strongly recommend the inclusion of your placement in the following format:

Title of Film (Font size 3, Bold font type)

Body of review (see following guidelines for each tier).

Tier Recommendation (Font size 3, Bold Font type)

Screen size, display resolution, and viewing distance.

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How it works:

We welcome opinions on all blu-rays, no matter how controversial or how long a title has enjoyed its placement. Final placements are often the result of weighing a wide range of recommendations. Often there is no majority opinion on any given title and a certain level of disagreement is expected given the subjective tastes and biases of each participant in the thread. Opinions and placements can change over time depending on group consensus and the evolution of the Blu-ray format. The best way to make sure your point of view is represented is writing a review with a recommendation in the format just laid out.

Every few weeks, the moderator does an accounting of recent posts looking for reviews and recommendations. Using the format described above will ensure that your recommendation is noticed and counted. If there is a dispute about a specific placement, other reviewers may challenge you to support your recommendation with further debate and discussion. In these cases, the moderator may go deeper and read the debate. You are not obligated to defend your review nor to engage in debate, but it can help the moderator to further understand your recommendation. So, every few weeks the moderator collects the reviews, reads the debates if necessary, and then titles are given one exact ranking at the moderator's discretion. Final placements can be challenged if there is noticeable support for a different assessment, though the final judgment is at the discretion of the Phantom Stranger.

Glossary and Terms:

Definitions and guides for common terms and useful items in rating picture quality for the purposes of this thread:

Aspect Ratio - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)

Bokeh - http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/bokeh.htm

Blu-ray - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu_ray

Cinematography - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinematography

Digital Noise Reduction (DNR) - http://www.cinedrome.ch/hometheater/dvd/dnr/text.html

Edge Enhancement (EE) - http://www.videophile.info/Guide_EE/Page_01.htm

Film Resolution & Pixels - http://magazine.creativecow.net/arti...ture-of-pixels

Macroblocking - http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_te...i=56319,00.asp

Posterization - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=840193

Telecine - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecine

How each Tier is categorized and other signifiers

Notice: For the purposes of this tier system we do not take director's intent into consideration when evaluating the visual quality of each Blu-ray. This list represents an absolute ranking system, where every available Blu-ray's picture quality is directly compared against every other release. Those who are interested may want to use the thread search feature to peruse the individual reviews that contributed to these placements for further clarification. Tier placements can change over time as feedback warrants.

Tier Zero - Blu (Reference)

Blu-ray titles in this tier consistently offer reference level high-definition picture quality that continues to impress both at viewing distances approximately 1.5 screen widths from the display and on larger projection screens over 100”.

A Blu-ray in Tier Zero will generally exhibit the following characteristics:

A sharp image with a palpable sense of depth, clarity, and presence that will often appear nearly three-dimensional in nature.

Excellent contrast, superb shadow detail, and the deepest black levels without macroblocking or clipping.

Exquisite resolution of ultra-fine detail, fabric and surface textures, individual strands of hair, and human faces down to the imperfections and pores. Animated material will often exhibit photo-realistic qualities and will feature beautifully rendered environments.

Sophisticated color palettes will be completely resolved down to the most subtle gradations of each hue. Primary colors will appear striking and dynamic. Black-and-white material will exhibit top-notch and accurate grayscale reproduction.

A film-based title will exhibit natural grain structure free of excessive digital noise reduction (DNR) or filtering that results in a noticeable impact on the image, including waxy looking faces and missing high-frequency detail in general.

Halos and ringing artifacts are either absent or not visible enough to be distracting from standard viewing distances.

No alteration from the originally intended aspect ratio or viewable image area.

An artifact-free video compression encoding that shows virtually no signs of chroma noise, banding, posterization, aliasing, macroblocking, compression noise, and other encoding deficiencies.

The transfer of the Blu-ray will be sourced from a master with virtually no visible flaws. This entails an image free of print damage, dirt, specks, cue marks, and other flaws that should be absent from a new and pristine transfer of source material in excellent condition.

Tier 1 - Gold (Excellent)

Blu-rays in this tier are demo-worthy and exhibit many of the same image qualities as titles in tier zero, albeit with a few qualifications: May demonstrate reference picture quality but have brief periods of inconsistency; Or may exhibit excellent quality in general but ever so slightly rank below tier zero quality in terms of visual interest, detail, contrast, depth or clarity. Differences between titles in the top two tiers can be very subtle.

Tier 2 - Silver (Good)

The titles in this tier are representative of good picture quality that is above-average and a significant upgrade over standard definition. The image will demonstrate a sharp nature that begins to approach a stronger quality of depth and dimensionality not present in the lower ranked tiers. Typically the image will lack any of the major deficiencies seen in the lower tiers such as visible compression artifacts, inappropriate application of post-processing tools, master defects, etc. While the Blu-rays ranked here are not truly worthy of being demo quality, they are visually pleasing to a casual watcher of HD material and are strong upgrades over the equivalent dvd version.

Tier 3 - Bronze (Average)

The titles in this tier are representative of average picture quality considering all Blu-rays. Image quality characteristic of this tier will be superior to upscaled dvd but will lack any demo potential. Minor flaws or slight limitations in the source material may be present but these transfers are usually worth the upgrade over the dvd version. The picture will typically lack the depth and dimensionality exhibited in the higher tiers. Detail and clarity will be solid and present a pleasing image at standard viewing distances. In many cases the difference between this tier and the surrounding tiers is an issue of consistency to the picture quality.

Tier 4 - Copper (Below Average)

The titles in this tier typically represent below-average picture quality that is subpar for the Blu-ray format. While still visually better than upscaled standard definition material, the differences are less obvious upon casual inspection. The image may have deficiencies in one or more areas. The picture will look flat and lack the sharpness seen in higher tiers. Compression artifacts, softness, poor black levels, questionable source material, and poorly transferred masters are just some of the problems exhibited in tier four. Some Blu-rays in this tier are significant upgrades over the dvd but are constrained in image quality due to the limitations inherent in the source material or the director's intended look.

Tier 5 - Coal (Unacceptable)

The titles in this tier have severe limitations in their picture quality that is strongly underwhelming compared to the average Blu-ray. The image has deficiencies in multiple areas that would be obvious upon a casual viewing. Without question, the Blu-rays in tier five are among the worst looking selections available on the format. At various times, the picture quality is hard to distinguish from dvd content. Softness, artifacting, poor source material, limited resolution and clarity are general characteristics of titles in this tier.

Addendum:

Some, but not all, of the Blu-rays ranked in the various tiers look as good as they possibly can on Blu-ray given limitations in the original photography and the director's intended visuals. We recognize films and videos are not all created with the same intent and quality, and this is why certain titles can never achieve a tier zero or tier one ranking for example, even given a perfect transfer from the best possible source. Rankings as low as tier four can still constitute a worthy Blu-ray release, as long as the Blu-ray is visually transparent to the best available source for a particular title. This last point is beyond the scope of the tier system and should be investigated on a title-to-title basis on your own.

SuprSlow · Aug 4, 2009

SuprSlow · Aug 4, 2009

SuprSlow · Aug 4, 2009

SuprSlow · Aug 4, 2009

SuprSlow · Aug 4, 2009

Data Analysis of the Picture Quality Tiers, broken down by studio (current through 3/17/2011):

	Blu		Gold		Silver		Bronze		Copper		Coal
Warner	5	1.8%	64	23.5%	89	32.7%	78	28.7%	33	12.1%	3	1.1%	272
Sony	6	2.2%	74	27.5%	95	35.3%	69	25.7%	21	7.8%	4	1.5%	269
Fox	8	4.5%	48	26.8%	61	34.1%	52	29.1%	9	5.0%	1	0.6%	179
Universal	8	6.8%	37	31.6%	44	37.6%	17	14.5%	10	8.5%	1	0.9%	117
Paramount	3	2.9%	31	30.4%	35	34.3%	24	23.5%	8	7.8%	1	1.0%	102
Lionsgate	3	3.2%	17	17.9%	31	32.6%	22	23.2%	21	22.1%	1	1.1%	95
Disney	26	30.2%	28	32.6%	17	19.8%	11	12.8%	2	2.3%	2	2.3%	86
Buena Vista			10	22.2%	19	42.2%	12	26.7%	4	8.9%			45
Starz/Anchor Bay	1	2.3%	2	4.7%	17	39.5%	11	25.6%	8	18.6%	4	9.3%	43
MGM			6	17.6%	12	35.3%	8	23.5%	7	20.6%	1	2.9%	34
Criterion	1	3.0%	3	9.1%	13	39.4%	10	30.3%	6	18.2%			33
Image	2	6.5%	5	16.1%	8	25.8%	7	22.6%	6	19.4%	3	9.7%	31
Magnolia	1	3.7%	3	11.1%	8	29.6%	12	44.4%	3	11.1%			27
New Line			7	29.2%	12	50.0%	5	20.8%					24
Dreamworks	5	26.3%	9	47.4%	4	21.1%	1	5.3%					19
Summit	2	11.8%	9	52.9%	2	11.8%	3	17.6%	1	5.9%			17
Weinstein			5	41.7%	3	25.0%	3	25.0%	1	8.3%			12
First Look Studios			4	33.3%	2	16.7%	4	33.3%	2	16.7%			12
Alliance			2	18.2%	4	36.4%	4	36.4%			1	9.1%	11
MPI Media	3	37.5%			1	12.5%	2	25.0%	2	25.0%			8
Funimation					4	57.1%	2	28.6%	1	14.3%			7
Icon			3	42.9%	3	42.9%			1	14.3%			7
Eagle Rock					3	42.9%	2	28.6%	2	28.6%			7
Vivendi Visual			1	14.3%			3	42.9%	3	42.9%			7
Echo Bridge					1	20.0%	1	20.0%	1	20.0%	2	40.0%	5
BBC			1	25.0%	2	50.0%	1	25.0%					4
ITV DVD					2	50.0%			1	25.0%	1	25.0%	4
Metrodome Video			1	25.0%	1	25.0%	1	25.0%	1	25.0%			4
Optimum			1	25.0%	1	25.0%	1	25.0%	1	25.0%			4
Shout Factory					2	50.0%	1	25.0%	1	25.0%			4
Blue Underground							3	75.0%	1	25.0%			4
Screen Media					1	25.0%	1	25.0%	2	50.0%			4
A & E Video					1	33.3%	1	33.3%	1	33.3%			3
Discovery					3	100.0%							3
HBO			1	33.3%	2	66.7%							3
Razor Digital			2	66.7%	1	33.3%							3
Questar							3	100.0%					3
Phase 4	1	33.3%			2	66.7%							3
BCI					1	33.3%			2	66.7%			3
Kino Video							1	33.3%	2	66.7%			3
EIV					2	100.0%							2
EMI			1	50.0%	1	50.0%							2
Koch							1	50.0%			1	50.0%	2
Mei Ah			2	100.0%									2
Peace Arch Trinity			1	50.0%					1	50.0%			2
Tai Seng					2	100.0%							2
Tartan					1	50.0%	1	50.0%					2
Well Go USA							1	50.0%			1	50.0%	2
WTTW National Prod			2	100.0%									2
Severin Films							1	50.0%	1	50.0%			2
Artificial Eye					1	100.0%							1
Bandai Visual			1	100.0%									1
Benelux					1	100.0%							1
Brightspark					1	100.0%							1
Def Jam					1	100.0%							1
Deltamac					1	100.0%							1
Deutsche Grammaphone					1	100.0%							1
Dimension					1	100.0%							1
Dreamgirls					1	100.0%							1
DVD Intl					1	100.0%							1
Hannover House			1	100.0%									1
Honneamise			1	100.0%									1
IFC Films			1	100.0%									1
LRS			1	100.0%									1
Maya											1	100.0%	1
Medici Arts			1	100.0%									1
Mega Star					1	100.0%							1
Music Box			1	100.0%									1
Scanbox					1	100.0%							1
Showbox					1	100.0%							1
Zoe					1	100.0%							1
National Geographic							1	100.0%					1
Revolver							1	100.0%					1
Oscilloscope labratories							1	100.0%					1
E-M-S							1	100.0%					1
Narrative							1	100.0%					1
ICA Films							1	100.0%					1
Visual entertainment							1	100.0%					1
Splended							1	100.0%					1
Tropics Entertainment	1	100.0%											1
2 Entertain	1	100.0%											1
	77	4.9%	387	24.6%	526	33.5%	388	24.7%	166	10.6%	28	1.8%	1572

all analysis courtesy of forum user DanLW

blusman · Sep 20, 2013

I'm surprised to see that Game of Thrones isn't on the list!

Phantom Stranger · Sep 20, 2013

Quote: Originally Posted by blusman

I'm surprised to see that Game of Thrones isn't on the list!

Game of Thrones is in the latest version of the PQ Tiers. You are looking at an older version of the list, which hasn't been updated since May of 2012. The current PQ Tiers are fully updated through September 2013.

Here is the ongoing master list, updated every three months or so:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1425519/o...lu-ray-picture-quality-rankings-the-tiers-list-updated-through-september-1-2013

The current list will always be the sticky thread at the top of the Blu-ray Software forum. Many people get the older list when searching for the link through Google. Bookmark the above link for future reference.

All current discussion for the PQ Tiers goes on in this one thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/858316/the-new-pq-tier-thread-for-blu-ray-discussion/21330#post_24535264

Direct all further inquiries there.

snyper99 · Dec 15, 2014

bump for an update?

Phantom Stranger · Dec 15, 2014

I thought this thread was locked, I guess when the forum switched software that was reset or something. Anyway, you are looking at an outdated version of the Blu-ray PQ Tiers. Did Google lead you here? I know that Google still points to this older version when you search for the list. It has been updated constantly since this list was posted in 2012.

The newest version of the PQ Tiers can be found in this thread

:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/150-b...-blu-ray-picture-quality-rankings-pq-tiers-updated-through-march-27-2014-a.html

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