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I never said firmware updates to fix bugs is a problem. I understand what you are saying with your generalizations but I don’t understand why it’s important about what is right or wrong with these companies.

My XMC2 works great and that’s all that matters. Now I gotta run some more REW since I went from 5.2.4 to 7.2.4.

Until Dirac arrives... 😊
Guess we have a different idea of "works great".
 
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I never said firmware updates to fix bugs is a problem. I understand what you are saying with your generalizations but I don’️t understand why it’️s important about what is right or wrong with these companies.

My XMC2 works great and that’️s all that matters. Now I gotta run some more REW since I went from 5.2.4 to 7.2.4.

Until Dirac arrives... 😊
Guess we have a different idea of "works great".
I hope simple words like “works great” really require no translation.

Been using it all day today - works great 👍
 

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Not to stir anything up here, can you guys correct your sub with the DSP? When I use the DSP for the sub, it makes no correction. Is this a problem unique to me?
 

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Needing firmware updates to fix bugs is not the problem. The problem is the excessively large number of bugs in basic functions on initial release. There's something fundamentally wrong with how these companies operate when a online retailer like Monoprice can develop its own processor that isn't worse (or even better) than what we see from companies that have been in the business for decades.

ATI/Datasat wasn't involved with the Monoprice unit? I thought it was (but my info is probably a little outdated--I haven't followed that thread as closely as I should).
 

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ATI/Datasat wasn't involved with the Monoprice unit? I thought it was (but my info is probably a little outdated--I haven't followed that thread as closely as I should).

Monoprice HTP-1 is basically a rebadged Datasat (well ATi, which now owns Datasat). ATI is even stamped on the back of the unit.

I am not sure which engineers from the ATi team worked on it. Maybe someone else will know?
 

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ATI/Datasat wasn't involved with the Monoprice unit? I thought it was (but my info is probably a little outdated--I haven't followed that thread as closely as I should).

Monoprice HTP-1 is basically a rebadged Datasat (well ATi, which now owns Datasat). ATI is even stamped on the back of the unit.

I am not sure which engineers from the ATi team worked on it. Maybe someone else will know?
Which model? I wasn’t able to find any Datasat units that mirror the HTP1.
 

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Which model? I wasn’t able to find any Datasat units that mirror the HTP1.
My understanding which may be wrong is that it's not an ATI model per se, but it's built by them.
 

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audiosciencerview measured both units. They are both at the top end of HT measurements, the Emotiva might even be considered a touch better than the HTP-1 with V1.9 but they measure very similarily which is not surprising as they have very similar dac and opamps and both are a competent implementation.

The HTP-1 is likely more stable from what I can see but the XMC-2 is a lot better with the current firmware than older firmware and be careful of people referencing old info with the Emotivas. The big difference is the HTP-1 has good working Dirac right now but the XMC-2 is quite a bit cheaper and should get Dirac soonish. Feature wise the XMC-2 has more analogue audio focussed features whilst the HTP-1 will likely get DTS:X pro faster and has Auro.

So there is no way to do room correction until Dirac Live 2.0 support is added to the XMc-2? Is this still supposed to happen this month ? Have all owners now received this new hardware dongle that is supposedly needed for Dirac (strange !!)


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My xmc-2 with xpa gen3 have lost much of the low bass sounds! I have until yesterday listen everyday with great sound in straight mode reference stereo! The bass has been incredible on the very lows like 40hz-20hz! My canton ref2k goes to 18hz so you really feel the sound in your back! But now all that is gone, what has happend...? The source is Tidal and cd! But it sounds the same on both so something in wrong in processor or poweramp?
 

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audiosciencerview measured both units. They are both at the top end of HT measurements, the Emotiva might even be considered a touch better than the HTP-1 with V1.9 but they measure very similarily which is not surprising as they have very similar dac and opamps and both are a competent implementation.

The HTP-1 is likely more stable from what I can see but the XMC-2 is a lot better with the current firmware than older firmware and be careful of people referencing old info with the Emotivas. The big difference is the HTP-1 has good working Dirac right now but the XMC-2 is quite a bit cheaper and should get Dirac soonish. Feature wise the XMC-2 has more analogue audio focussed features whilst the HTP-1 will likely get DTS:X pro faster and has Auro.

So there is no way to do room correction until Dirac Live 2.0 support is added to the XMc-1 ? Is this still supposed to happen this month ? Have all owners now received this new hardware dongle that is supposedly needed for Dirac (strange !!)


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I’m assuming you mean XMC2.

Yes the solution hasn’t changed since Emotiva announced the black box hardware needed for Dirac.

I’m guessing due to the coronavirus, no one had gotten the hardware or the license info.
 

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Hello, I still don't have this unit installed and trying to get my ducks in a row. Can any of the unused channels be configured for a second center? Thanks!
 

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Hello, I still don't have this unit installed and trying to get my ducks in a row. Can any of the unused channels be configured for a second center? Thanks!
there is only one output for the center.

The configuration is limited to the 3 sub outputs - 2 can be repurposed for additional ceiling speakers. Also the front wides can be used to bi-amp the mains.
 

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there is only one output for the center.

The configuration is limited to the 3 sub outputs - 2 can be repurposed for additional ceiling speakers. Also the front wides can be used to bi-amp the mains.
I thought that was the case but, the OM can be quite vague on some things. Thank you!

Any issue with using an XLR "Y" adapter for the center?
 

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there is only one output for the center.

The configuration is limited to the 3 sub outputs - 2 can be repurposed for additional ceiling speakers. Also the front wides can be used to bi-amp the mains.
I thought that was the case but, the OM can be quite vague on some things. Thank you!

Any issue with using an XLR "Y" adapter for the center?
No problem. Unfortunately, I’m not sure on that question.

I don’t think there would be any issues but you may want to call Emotiva and talk to their tech support.
 

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No problem. Unfortunately, I’m not sure on that question.



I don’t think there would be any issues but you may want to call Emotiva and talk to their tech support.


Will do and thanks again!

Edit: I checked with Emotiva and they replied it was not a problem.
 

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I am not really satisfied with the sound in stereo mode with xmc-2! After a couple of ours I here dissortion from the speakers on cd and tidal streaming! I get the feeling when playing music with much bass on loud levels that the fun is going to end a little bit to fast! Like I bottom the bass to fast,it should sound more! I have now install my old Harman/kardon pm 665vxi and for sure I can play more and louder with controll on my woofers! No bad sounds, feels Much more powerful in the bass! I use the Pm665vxi as a preamp and xpa gen3 as poweramp! The source is tidal on a Linn Ds streamer and I only use reference stereo mode! Tried every modes and The reference mode allways win! Oh forget, the speakers is Canton reference 2k! Because I use HK like a preamp the power in gen3 should not be the problem
 

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You're impressed with a rollout that is much less buggy? Are your expectations always that low? I mean that thing costs 4000 dollars! It shouldn't have any readily identifiable bugs at all.
I've been away from this part of AVS for quite awhile until recently to check on the status of the XMC-2.

But one thing that hasn't changed in a few years is your non stop negativity. I would think you would give up railing against companies like Emotiva, Monoprice and any other company that's in your sights. Does it get old being on the front lines trying to bring these companies down? If it bothers you as much as it appears to why not start your own "boutique" A/V company and put out a bug free processor. In today's world a buggy processor should be the least of our problems.

I'm certainly not a fan of Emotiva's business practices at times or it's owner. But I've been enjoying my XMC-1 with no issues in quite a few years. It just plain works and sounds incredible.

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I've been away from this part of AVS for quite awhile until recently to check on the status of the XMC-2.

But one thing that hasn't changed in a few years is your non stop negativity. I would think you would give up railing against companies like Emotiva, Monoprice and any other company that's in your sights. Does it get old being on the front lines trying to bring these companies down? If it bothers you as much as it appears to why not start your own "boutique" A/V company and put out a bug free processor. In today's world a buggy processor should be the least of our problems.

I'm certainly not a fan of Emotiva's business practices at times or it's owner. But I've been enjoying my XMC-1 with no issues in quite a few years. It just plain works and sounds incredible.

Bill
Prime example of red herring and ad hominem.

Nonstop buggy products results in nonstop "negativity". These companies want our money so they need to deliver on what they promised. Simple as that. You're barking up the wrong tree.
 
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Prime example of red herring and ad hominem.

Nonstop buggy products results in nonstop "negativity". These companies want our money so they need to deliver on what they promised. Simple as that. You're barking up the wrong tree.
It seems you're doing a majority of the "barking". Do you contact Emotiva, Monoprice and other companies with buggy products with the same zeal as you do here on AVS? Do you spend time in other sub forums here on AVS that discuss products that are buggy? I'd think you would be all over the display and digital player sub forums. The reason being is if you're so concerned about buggy products why focus all your energy on just processors.

I can understand your frustration. But with posts like the ones below you also go after those that own these processors. The last thing someone needs is being lectured and ridiculed by you on their purchase. No one needs your "negativity" being directed at them on a product they bought. It's frustrating enough without your comments questioning their purchase. Ever consider that?
You're impressed with a rollout that is much less buggy? Are your expectations always that low? I mean that thing costs 4000 dollars! It shouldn't have any readily identifiable bugs at all.
Guess we have a different idea of "works great".
The two posts above are just from this thread. I've seen many posts just like the above from you directed at fellow AVS members. The interesting thing is you don't even own the XMC-2 as far as I know. You probably don't own any of the processors you are railing against. Going after individuals that buy these processors isn't going accomplish anything IMO. Maybe direct your energy and solutions at the companies themselves. That'd be constructive. Just a thought...

Bill
 
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