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The *Official 2014 Marantz Non-Atmos* NR-1605/SR-5009/SR-6009 Receiver Owners Thread

Marantz US has made details of the 2014 NR-1605 model available. This is an owner's thread and for those who would like to be owners of the Marantz slimline receivers.





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  • NO PRICE TALK PLEASE. This is thread is meant for technical discussions/issues. If you want to discuss great deals, use the Private Message (PM) function, start a new thread such as "great deals for the 2014 Marantz slimline receivers", or better yet call jdsmoothie for a quote (see post #3) for details.
  • Does not decode Dolby ATMOS. If you want this feature, you'll have to step-up to the SR-7009 model of receivers or to the pre/pro range; i.e. AV-7702/8802.
  • The room equalization offered for 2014 slimline Marantz receivers is Audyssey MultiEQ. If you want the higher end Audyssey versions such as XT or XT32 (with sub EQ HT), you'll have to step up to the SR series of receivers or go with the pre/pro range.
The NR-1605 is a 7 channel AVR and has a MSRP USD$699. Product details from Marantz US website is here: http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=avreceivers&ProductId=NR1605

Specification of the NR-1605.


  • Dimensions in H x W x D = 4.2" (not including antenna. +2.6" with) x 17.3" x 14..8"
  • Weight = 19 lbs
  • Number of amp channels = 7
  • Max power with 2-channels driven at lowest THD (0.08%) = 50 W
  • Number of HDMI inputs=8 (7 at back + 1 at front)
  • Number of HDMI outputs = 1 (has ARC feature)
  • Number of USB port(s) = 1 (front panel that can be used for connecting external storage or iDevice)
  • Number of digital inputs = 2 (1 optical + 1 coax)
  • Number of analogue inputs = 3 (RCA type)
  • Number of composite video inputs = 3 (RCA type)
  • Number of composite video outputs = 1 (RCA type)
  • Number of component video inputs = 2 (RCA type)
  • Number of component video outputs = 1 (RCA type)
  • Up-scaling of input video signals to 4k? = Yes up to 30/25/24Hz
  • AM/FM terminals and antenna available = Yes
  • Remote 12V DC trigger out = Yes (150mA max. current)
  • Wired LAN connection available = Yes
  • Wireless LAN connection available = Yes (2.4 GHz only)
  • Blue tooth connectivity available = Yes
  • Zone 2 support = Yes. Can use analogue RCA output or the amp assign feature on the power terminals

Owner's manual of the NR-1605 here: http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=avreceivers&ProductId=NR1605

What's new in the 2014 models compared to previous year's model?
Remote has now Smart Select button (4 numbers) that allow custom settings to be engaged.

The NR-1605 has the following additional features compared to the 2013 model (NR-1604):




  • Pass through for 4k 60/50Hz signal - not supported on front HDMI input.
  • One additional HDMI input
  • Built in WiFi
  • Built in bluetooth - limited to A2DP & AVRCP protocol.
  • DC trigger output (Yeah!)
  • Support for DSD files - via network, USB and HDMI. DSD is not possible in Zone 2.
  • Support for AIFF files via network and USB.
  • Support for 4 ohm speakers.
  • ECO Mode.
  • ISF Day/Night setting
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Network reset instruction given by jdsmoothie in post number 219.
 

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The SR-5009 is a 7 channel AVR and has a MSRP USD$899.

Product details from Marantz US website is here: http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=AVReceivers&SubCatId=&ProductId=SR5009

Specification of the SR-5009.
  • Dimensions in H x W x D = 6.3" (not including antenna. +2.7" with) x 17.3" x 13.6"
  • Weight = 22.9 lbs
  • Number of amp channels = 7
  • Max power with 2-channels driven at lowest THD (0.08%) = 100 W
  • Number of HDMI inputs=8 (7 at back + 1 at front)
  • Number of HDMI outputs = 2 (one has ARC feature)
  • Number of USB port(s) = 1 (front panel that can be used for connecting external storage or iDevice)
  • Number of digital inputs = 4 (2 optical + 2 coax)
  • Number of analogue inputs = 5 RCA type (4 at back + 1 at front)
  • Number of composite video inputs = 3 RCA type (2 at back + 1 at front)
  • Number of composite video outputs = 1 RCA type
  • Number of component video inputs = 2 RCA type
  • Number of component video outputs = 1 RCA type
  • 7.1 channel audio input = Yes. RCA type
  • 7.1 channel audio output = Yes. RCA type
  • Number of sub channel output = 2 (Internal Y-split and not 2 independent channels)
  • Up-scaling of input video signals to 4k? = Yes up to 30/25/24Hz
  • AM/FM terminals and antenna available = Yes
  • Remote 12V DC trigger out = Yes (150mA max. current)
  • Wired LAN connection available = Yes
  • Wireless LAN connection available = Yes (2.4 GHz only)
  • Blue tooth connectivity available = Yes
  • Zone 2 support = Yes. Can use analogue RCA output or the amp assign feature on the power terminals
  • Room Equalization type = Audyssey MultiEQ XT with 8 positions.

Owner's manual of the SR-5009 is here: http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=AVReceivers&SubCatId=&ProductId=SR5009

What's new in the 2014 models compared to previous year's model?

Remote has now Smart Select button (4 numbers) that allow custom settings to be engaged.

The SR-5009 has the following additional features compared to the 2013 model (SR-5008):
  • Pass through for 4k 60/50Hz signal - not supported on front HDMI input.
  • One additional HDMI input.
  • One additional HDMI output.
  • Built in WiFi.
  • Built in bluetooth - A2DP & AVRCP protocol.
  • Support for DSD files - via network, USB and HDMI. DSD is not possible in Zone 2.
  • Support for AIFF files via network and USB.
  • Support for 4 ohm speakers via current limiter.
  • ECO Mode.
  • ISF Day/Night setting

Back of panel picture:
 

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The SR-6009 is a 7 channel AVR and has a MSRP USD$1,299.

Product details from Marantz US website is here: http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/P...?CatId=AVReceivers&SubCatId=&ProductId=SR6009

Specification of the SR-6009.
  • Dimensions in H x W x D = 6.34" x 17.32" x 15.28" (height does not include antenna)
  • Weight = 25.14 lbs
  • Number of amp channels = 7
  • Max power with 2-channels driven at lowest THD (0.08%) = 110 W
  • Number of HDMI inputs=8 (7 at back + 1 at front)
  • Number of HDMI outputs = 2 (one has ARC feature)
  • Number of USB port(s) = 1 (front panel that can be used for connecting external storage or iDevice)
  • Number of digital inputs = 4 (2 optical + 2 coax)
  • Number of analogue inputs = 6 RCA type (5 at back + 1 at front)
  • Number of composite video inputs = 3 RCA type (2 at back + 1 at front)
  • Number of composite video outputs = 1 RCA type
  • Number of component video inputs = 2 RCA type
  • Number of component video outputs = 1 RCA type
  • 7.1 channel audio input = Yes. RCA type
  • 7.1 channel audio output = Yes. RCA type
  • Number of sub channel output = 2 (Internal Y-split and not 2 independent channels)
  • Up-scaling of input video signals to 4k? = Yes up to 30/25/24Hz
  • AM/FM terminals and antenna available = Yes
  • Remote 12V DC trigger out = Yes (150mA max. current)
  • Wired LAN connection available = Yes
  • Wireless LAN connection available = Yes (2.4 GHz only)
  • Blue tooth connectivity available = Yes
  • Zone 2 support = Yes. Can use analogue RCA output or the amp assign feature on the power terminals
  • Room Equalization type = Audyssey MultiEQ XT with 8 positions.

Owner's manual of the SR-6009 is here: http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/P...?CatId=AVReceivers&SubCatId=&ProductId=SR6009

What's new in the 2014 model compared to 2013 (SR-5008)?
Remote has now Smart Select button (4 numbers) that allow custom settings to be engaged.

  • Pass through for 4k 60/50Hz signal - not supported on front HDMI input.
  • One additional HDMI input.
  • Built in WiFi.
  • Built in bluetooth - A2DP & AVRCP protocol.
  • Support for DSD files - via network, USB and HDMI. DSD is not possible in Zone 2.
  • Support for AIFF files via network and USB.
  • Support for 4 ohm speakers via current limiter.
  • ECO Mode.
  • ISF Day/Night setting

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Since Marantz and Denon are owned by the same parent holding company, a lot of the features available in the 2014 Denon models are replicated to Marantz models.

jdsmoothie and batpig have started the 2014 Denon thread. Many questions related to features, settings, set-up of the Martanz slimline receivers can be found in post #3 of the 2014 Denon thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/1531868-official-2014-denon-s-series-x-series-avr-model-owner-s-thread-faq.html#post24721978

I'll just refer everyone to the good work that jdsmoothie and batpig have already done. Please click on the link and have a read of post #3 as it may answer your questions.

If you're looking to purchase a Marantz slimline receiver (or any Denon/Marantz gear), AVS is an authorized dealer. Call jdsmoothie on 585-645-1006 for competitive quote.:)

Firmware updates:
15-Oct-2014: Change log and 1st update advised by jdsmoothie in post number 55.
3-Feb-2015: Change log and 2nd update advised by jdsmoothie in post number 142.
13-Apr-2015. Change log and 3rd up-date advised by sys4096 in post number 233.
 

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Known issues for Marantz 2014 non-Atmos receiver models.
 

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The first post says this doesn't have MultiEQ XT. However, the Marantz website says it does, under the Audyssey Silver banner, along with Subwoofer EQ.

Which is correct?
 

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The first post says this doesn't have MultiEQ XT. However, the Marantz website says it does, under the Audyssey Silver banner, along with Subwoofer EQ.

Which is correct?
As jdmsoothie said, only MultiEQ is provided on the NR-1605. Previous generations of Marantz slimline receivers only used MultiEQ. I have the same setup for Audyssey on the NR-1504. It's the same on the NR-1604.

Page 177 of the owner's manual for the NR-1605 says MultiEQ for the 6 position setup.

Marantz website needs up-dating.
 

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Any of you guys getting freezing issues with your 1605?
Hi konigsberg,

I've had the occasional freeze of my slimline receiver. Tried to play 2 sources at the same time through HDMI inputs.

A soft reset solved the issue for me.

The soft reset is simple: unplug the power cord and wait for an hour. Then plug in the power cord and turn on the receiver.
 

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Hi konigsberg,

I've had the occasional freeze of my slimline receiver. Tried to play to sources at the same time through HDMI inputs.

A soft reset solved the issue for me.

The soft reset is simple: unplug the power cord and wait for an hour. Then plug in the power cord and turn on the receiver.
I'm seeing this everywhere. so will firmware fix this or is this a hardware thing? I'm not sure why it's happening. The reviews on Amazon don't specify like you do. But this is for the 1605 exclusively.
 

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Everywhere? I see 3 of only 6 reviews on Amazon that mention the issue. Hardly indicative of a global problem. What you don't see are the many owners that have no reason to post as there is no problem with their units.
I have not yet made a conclusive decision on the 1605. While I somewhat share your view of negative posting vs positive, my experience on Amazon is that on many things I've looked at the positives far outweigh the negative reviews. With that in mind I went back to look at Amazon again because it is not a simple 50% negative reviews because 3 of the reviews involve 2 units each, so that out of 9 units 4 were freezing up, 2 were dead(One after 2 days and the replacement unit was DOA; possibly shipped him back the same unit which would then speak badly of customer service). Two thirds of the units had significant issues. Of course this is a small sample of all the 1605s shipped and maybe time will paint a different picture.

Here are some other Marantz units to see if there was a negative bias:

Stars 1605 1403 1504 5008 7008

..5........1.....60....13.......18......10
..4........2.......9..... 9........6........2
..3........1.......3......2........1........0
..2........1.......4......1....... 2....... 0
..1........1.......7......3........1........1

On Best buy there are two 5 star and two 4 star ratings for the 1605, which in the end leaves me wondering on what I will do :)

Sorry for all the periods, I need to figure out how to do columns!

Hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day weekend.
 

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^Matt2026,

If this is your first time purchasing an AVR, I can understand you are worried about some of the negative feedback. Just go with an authorised dealer that's got a generous returns policy and you give some peace of mind. Check the warranty period being offered and ask for an extension if you're willing to pay for it.

The other thing to keep in mind is help support. There are few manufacturers of modern AVRs that have good technical / customer service. Forums such as AVS fill that gap. Jdsmoothie / batpig are the experts when it comes to Denon/Marantz receivers. I doubt you'll be able to tap into that knowledge base at Amazon.

If you can find another slimline receiver that has the same or better features at a lower cost and has been around for a while, I suggest you purchase that instead.
 

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^Matt2026,

If this is your first time purchasing an AVR, I can understand you are worried about some of the negative feedback. Just go with an authorised dealer that's got a generous returns policy and you give some peace of mind. Check the warranty period being offered and ask for an extension if you're willing to pay for it.

The other thing to keep in mind is help support. There are few manufacturers of modern AVRs that have good technical / customer service. Forums such as AVS fill that gap. Jdsmoothie / batpig are the experts when it comes to Denon/Marantz receivers. I doubt you'll be able to tap into that knowledge base at Amazon.

If you can find another slimline receiver that has the same or better features at a lower cost and has been around for a while, I suggest you purchase that instead.

Hi Steve,

Thanks for the input.

My Yamaha DSP A1000, 1991 vintage, served me well for 20 years. Had DolbyPro, the analog version, and synthesized listening environments. Gads, I just found the receipt, $1993.96! That's in 1991 dollars, but back then I also had a job ;-)

I've read well over a 1000 posts here since July and one of the things that stuck with me was how much the Audyssey MultEQ XT32 improves the sound... Of course the price point climbs significantly to get it. Several AVRs that stuck with me included the Denon AVR4520CI, which a number folks are really fond of and has the X32. Of course the $2500 price tag was more than I wanted to pay, even if they are 2014 dollars. At two o'clock this morning I found it offered for $999.98 at BB. I went over this morning and checked it out in the Magnolia section and they had one unit in stock, BB had none but said 3-5 day for pick-up. So, I used my $55 in points and bought it even though it does not meet the slim-line size I would have preferred. While not lower in cost it is not much of a stretch from the 1605 price and it's a 9.2 unit I figure it may be worth a bit more also because most of the software gremlins have been sorted out and I hope to use it as long as my old Yamaha - not counting on that though as I am in my 70's now ;)

Take care,
 

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I've read well over a 1000 posts here since July and one of the things that stuck with me was how much the Audyssey MultEQ XT32 improves the sound... Of course the price point climbs significantly to get it. Several AVRs that stuck with me included the Denon AVR4520CI, which a number folks are really fond of and has the X32. Of course the $2500 price tag was more than I wanted to pay, even if they are 2014 dollars. At two o'clock this morning I found it offered for $999.98 at BB. I went over this morning and checked it out in the Magnolia section and they had one unit in stock, BB had none but said 3-5 day for pick-up. So, I used my $55 in points and bought it even though it does not meet the slim-line size I would have preferred. While not lower in cost it is not much of a stretch from the 1605 price and it's a 9.2 unit I figure it may be worth a bit more also because most of the software gremlins have been sorted out and I hope to use it as long as my old Yamaha - not counting on that though as I am in my 70's now ;)

Take care,
Matt2026,

XT32 with sub EQ HT is much better than MultiEQ that's currently available on the NR-1605.

The 4520ci is Denon's flagship that's going at fire sale price due to the up coming replacement Atmos receiver X7200. If you don't care much about Atmos or willing to wait until the dust settles, the 4520 is an excellent unit at a bargain price.

Head on over the 4520 thread started by batpig here: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...1430049-official-denon-avr-4520ci-thread.html and post your questions there. There are quite a few knowledgeable owners in the thread.

Congrats on getting a great deal.:)
 

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Matt2026,

XT32 with sub EQ HT is much better than MultiEQ that's currently available on the NR-1605.

The 4520ci is Denon's flagship that's going at fire sale price due to the up coming replacement Atmos receiver X7200. If you don't care much about Atmos or willing to wait until the dust settles, the 4520 is an excellent unit at a bargain price.

Head on over the 4520 thread started by batpig here: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...1430049-official-denon-avr-4520ci-thread.html and post your questions there. There are quite a few knowledgeable owners in the thread.

Congrats on getting a great deal.:)
Thanks again for your input Steve,

As to Atmos I had made up my mind that it is of no import to me so I was free to consider the 4520. Gotta be a bit realistic at times and I'm not likely to be putting holes in my ceiling anytime soon. My budget for HT stuff is maxed out for now so even the upward firing speakers would have to wait. And you figured correctly that if I were interested I would not be a first adapter and I have enough dust on me already ;). I have a pretty small room so I suspect a 7.1 or 9.1 setup will be wonderful.

After my last post I did head over to the 4250 thread, thanks for the suggestion in any case. I started with page one but with >9,000 posts I'll likely jump ahead after I'm in a couple of hundred posts and read some newer posts and then maybe come back to the older section. Looks like the last update was before my unit was manufactured so hopefully I have the latest version of the software. Since the note wasn't changed about them dropping the USB software update feature I'll hope I don't need to do that anytime soon as I'm on dial-up ... At least with my Samsung H8000 I can do a USB update if needed.

All the best to ya,
 

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I have a question on the 1605...

I listened to one at a Magnolia store and to me when comparing to a 7008 it sounded very very good. I could not really hear a difference. However if I compared it to a Yamaha or Pioneer I could hear a clear difference, the 1605 just sounds better. to me it is like the artist is in the room in front of me.
1605 has all the features I need and it would be a huge upgrade to my 12 year old non-HDMI Receiver I have today.

Is there a big difference in sound quality? I never came close to maxing out my 12 year old Receiver (granted it was 80 watts but not top of the line receiver more second rate class in that brand, Yamaha so not Aventage more V series).

My current speakers, floor standing Focals, are rated at 125 Watts but my take it will sound great with 1605 rather than having to step up to 5009.

Am I off here? Really like the slim profile provided sound is the same without going really loud.

Appreciate any feedback!

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I have a question on the 1605...

I listened to one at a Magnolia store and to me when comparing to a 7008 it sounded very very good. I could not really hear a difference. However if I compared it to a Yamaha or Pioneer I could hear a clear difference, the 1605 just sounds better. to me it is like the artist is in the room in front of me.
1605 has all the features I need and it would be a huge upgrade to my 12 year old non-HDMI Receiver I have today.

Is there a big difference in sound quality? I never came close to maxing out my 12 year old Receiver (granted it was 80 watts but not top of the line receiver more second rate class in that brand, Yamaha so not Aventage more V series).

My current speakers, floor standing Focals, are rated at 125 Watts but my take it will sound great with 1605 rather than having to step up to 5009.

Am I off here? Really like the slim profile provided sound is the same without going really loud.

Appreciate any feedback!

Thanks
Hi nph,

Before answering your question, would like to ask for some additional information on your setup.

How big is your room? Dimensions please; front wall to back wall length, side wall to side wall length, floor to ceiling length.

Where do you sit in the room with respect to the front sound stage speakers? This is referred to as the Main Listening Position (MLP).

How many speakers do you have? Make is Focal, how about model number? How close are the floor standers to the walls?

Once the above info is provided, a handy online calculator will determine if the NR-1605 is enough here: http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

The objective is to aim for peak SPL of 105dB at the MLP.

Edit: Forgot to ask, do you have a sub?
 

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Since the note wasn't changed about them dropping the USB software update feature I'll hope I don't need to do that anytime soon as I'm on dial-up ... At least with my Samsung H8000 I can do a USB update if needed.

All the best to ya,
What note are you referring to? My post #4 in that thread has indicated no USB updates for over a year now.
 
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