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... Now we have threads on TVs that are not out, with no owners of the sets, and so all you get are people posting their speculations. The single biggest time waster to me is wading through a bunch of posts containing nothing but guesses and speculations....

Since we are posting about being curious (as you did above), I'm wondering why:

-If you know the set hasn't been released

-If you have viewed SonyStyle.com like the rest of us

-If, because of the above 2 statements, you therefore know that this topic will be nothing but the speculation you referred to.


If all of the above is true, then why do you bother reading this topic. You know it will be speculation, therefore it will waste your time as you indicated. I get the feeling that you are not happy about the wasting of time, so why not move on to topics with information of importance/interest to you.


I might be wrong (and if so I apologize) but I don't think you are a moderator on this forum. Therefore it doesn't seem like the weight of deciding which topics are important to the rest of us and which ones aren't is on your shoulders.


I've been lurking here for quite a while now, and to be honest, it seems like sometimes some of you are going out of your way (and spending a lot of time) trying to find excuses for antagonizing WaltChan. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend him. I have no feelings either way towards him or any of you.


So no hard feelings towards anyone, these are just some observations I've been thinking about for a while now.


And just so everyone knows, I don't actually own an HDTV. I just dream about owning one, but am too cheap, so I just lurk here and read about everyone else's experiences!!
 

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why would they drop cablcard from this set ?

Here's the manual for the HS420: http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro.../KV34HS420.pdf



Why am I showing you that?


The exclusion of cable card capability lends further credence to what most of us are believing at this point: The XBR970 is nothing more than a rebadged HS420. The HS420's do not have Cable Card capability and never have.


It wasn't "dropped" at all. It never was on the HS420 and that's all this thing is, with a new coat of paint and the XBR logo.





To my eyes, the manual for the XBR970 and this Hs420 are virtually identical. I believe they're the same TV, or awfully close to it.


To the best of my knowledge, only the XS955 and XBR960 series had Cable Card capabilities.
 

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...To my eyes, the manual for the XBR970 and this Hs420 are virtually identical. I believe they're the same TV, or awfully close to it.


To the best of my knowledge, only the XS955 and XBR960 series had Cable Card capabilities.

Correct.


I have the 34HS420 - and it has no cablecard, no QAM, no digital tuner of any kind.


This new 970 appears to be a hybrid, some weird combination of essentially the HS420 with a sprinkling of XS features (e.g. digital tuner, enhanced DRC, enhanced stretch mode, imput memory). I suspect the enhancements are all coded and that there's probably no new hardware except the tuners.


I will be watching this new set very closely. If the set actually ships with the advertised features I will be interested in researching whether or not they are features already existing in the HS420 line but not advertised. There's much about the entire Wega line that's similar and common.


I believe we've already heard that some have discovered features on the XS model that we believed to only be on the XBR line - I believe this was discovered when using a Harmony Remote?


Bottom LIne - this is an enhanced HS420 with no SFP tube.
 

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I believe we've already heard that some have discovered features on the XS model that we believed to only be on the XBR line - I believe this was discovered when using a Harmony Remote?

justsc I believe these features were only on early releases of the XS

the owner with the 34" model had one from October and mine the 30" is from November of 04'


other owners with newer build dates could not access these functions AFAIK
 

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In these days of cutbacks in the CRT market I would think the easiest/cheapest way for Sony to come up with such a TV is to use the existing XS/XBR chassis to start and delete features to save money. It would probably be difficult/expensive to add a tuner to the 420 chassis.


So it could be a rebadged XBR with a 420 tube and features such as cable card removed.
 

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Here's the manual for the HS420: http://www.sonystyle.com/intershopro.../KV34HS420.pdf



Why am I showing you that?


The exclusion of cable card capability lends further credence to what most of us are believing at this point: The XBR970 is nothing more than a rebadged HS420. The HS420's do not have Cable Card capability and never have.


It wasn't "dropped" at all. It never was on the HS420 and that's all this thing is, with a new coat of paint and the XBR logo.





To my eyes, the manual for the XBR970 and this Hs420 are virtually identical. I believe they're the same TV, or awfully close to it.


To the best of my knowledge, only the XS955 and XBR960 series had Cable Card capabilities.


then why didn't Sony label this as an HS5xxx instead of xbr970. some are going to think this tv is the successor to the xbr960, which has a lot more features than the 970
 

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then why didn't Sony label this as an HS5xxx instead of xbr970. some are going to think this tv is the successor to the xbr960, which has a lot more features than the 970

You just answered your own question.
 

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then why didn't Sony label this as an HS5xxx instead of xbr970. some are going to think this tv is the successor to the xbr960, which has a lot more features than the 970

Cause the marketeers need something to do.


If the set has the XBR chip in it, Sony would want to tout that over any other feature.
 

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Can anybody tell me the estimate number of pixels or dots in the HS420 tube vs. XBR960 tube? What are the resolutions in each?

Walt,


It is still far heavier than the 30inch set you just cancelled for being too heavy. Hoping that less pixels will provide you with an anorexic 34inch set, are you!.
 

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Walter,

Maybe you should be looking for new stand also?
 

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Walt,


It is still far heavier than the 30inch set you just cancelled for being too heavy. Hoping that less pixels will provide you with an anorexic 34inch set, are you!.

see that previous thread for my suggestions on how he could get a heavier set lifted. If he makes it a "group" effort, it may be possible.
 

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see that previous thread for my suggestions on how he could get a heavier set lifted. If he makes it a "group" effort, it may be possible.

LOL


Seems to me that you may have some new members who are also afflicted with the dreaded condition which I have chosen to name:

WaltChan By Proxy, Syndrome.
 

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Ok, i know this is the first time i posted in this thread and I am a "newbie" but i have been reading the 960 threads for awhile and the 970s. The 960 has always been a little spendy for me so i have been leaning towards the 970 if it has the SFP. Well after all the speculation and holding off on buying anything until it is released i figured i would wait to see if the 970 will be SFP. I did call the 800 sony line and asked if the tube will be a SFP and they said yes (I was transferred 2 times to make sure it was for sure). I then sent an email to sony style asking why their website did not reflect this and here is a copy and paste of the email i recieved from them:


According to the product specialist all XBR's have the SFP. Since the KD-34XBR970 is a pre-sale item the specs pdf has not been released yet which explains the absence for the website.


Thank you for choosing Sony Style!


Sony Style Customer Care
 

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So one question i have, i know this is missing the cable card and a subwoofer and firewire. Will i miss the firewire? The only thing i will ever have hooked up to this is a HD DVD player with a HDMI input and a HD cable box from the cable company. This tv should be sufficient right?
 
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