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I've never used an AT screen or even researched them, so I'll leave it to others to tell you how much perforations in AT screens affects the performance compared with the same screen material unperforated. If going with AT allows you to use an appropriately larger screen it may be a matter of understanding any trade-offs. For example, I would think that perforations would reduce a screen material's gain and make it less bright.
Thanks Dave, that makes sense. It seems that woven AT screens are superior in quality to the perforated screens. It that a safe assumption or too much variability?
 

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Thanks Dave, that makes sense. It seems that woven AT screens are superior in quality to the perforated screens. It that a safe assumption or too much variability?
From the little I know too much variability. I can't imagine if woven were somehow inherently superior to perforated that Stewart Filmscreen wouldn't be offering woven rather than micro perf. But you really need input from the experts and more experienced folks here.
 

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Thanks Dave, that makes sense. It seems that woven AT screens are superior in quality to the perforated screens. It that a safe assumption or too much variability?
Woven = Better for audio
Perf = Better for video if you are far enough back which depends on your vision. Otherwise woven if you are super close.

That's my experience at least.
 

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I'll give you my opinion with installing projector systems and having both an AT and solid screen HT in my home. The advantages of better audio with an AT screen far outweigh the slight decrease in picture quality compared to the solid screen. Getting your speakers placed correctly, vertically oriented at the same height just makes the audio "right". Instead of poor audio locations like placing speakers in corners, the center near the floor or the ceiling and speakers not at the same height using proper placement in acoustics makes a HUGE difference. In my solid screen theater I currently have the speakers below the screen about 2 feet off the ground. I initially had them closer to ear height but I didn't like the screen higher on the wall. I've also tried placing them above the screen and if I had multiple rows that would be the better choice. Since I might make this room into an Atmos set up I felt below would be better for more height separation.

With the AT screen I do notice it is not as sharp as the solid screen but most would not notice it unless I pointed it out. Most people including some enthusiast go into my AT room and say it is the best picture they have ever seen. Now I am an audio and video calibrator and can notice the differences but when watching a movie it never bothers me but I notice the speakers below the screen. When they are at ear height everything is just where it should be. The larger the screen the more AT makes sense. As far as woven vs perf each has its pros and cons and it depends on the application which I would recommend. Pultzar's summary is about right. There are exceptions of course but in general I think he hit the nail on the head.
 

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Again, I have no direct experience with AT screens so I defer to those who do. But my understanding is that the much smaller holes produced by micro perf offer a noticeable improvement in image quality over the older larger perforations due to being less visible even at closer distances. I know that Stewart Filmscreen also claims their custom micro perf reduces the potential for moire, which I've seen a number of AT screen users mention on this forum as an issue with some AT screens under certain conditions.
 

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The larger holes are more for commercial theaters and not the home. Most of the perf'd screens I have seen or used in the professional realm I wouldn't use at home. The microperf at 12 feet and further you won't notice at all. From 10-12 feet most will not notice but on very bright scenes some might notice. With Stewart you spec the screen with the model projector you are using and they make sure moire is not a problem.
 

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Stewart firehawk balon screens

Looking to get a stewart firehawk balon screen. I would like to watch in some ambient light as well as with blackout curtains when needed. Does anyone have experience or opinions on this screen?
 

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Looking to get a stewart firehawk balon screen. I would like to watch in some ambient light as well as with blackout curtains when needed. Does anyone have experience or opinions on this screen?
To be honest, I have had the fire hawk for 5 years now, and with 4k and bright content, the material is very bothersome. It was bearable with 1080p, and you could mostly ignore it. Now I hate it. It's very distracting from the otherwise really impressive picture my Sony puts out. All the advice I received was that my room would be too bright and I'd lose light from the white walls and light coming in from the window. I dont think it would have been anywhere near as bad based on recently comparing samples in the room for the non fire hawk and brighter Stewart offerings. Also, the picture is overall darker which in 4k and HDR content again is EVEN darker with the fire hawk. This is true, even with HDR turned off. If your room is facing the sun and is directly exposed with lots of windows, maybe, but if not, in would suggest looking at alternatives.
 

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To be honest, I have had the fire hawk for 5 years now, and with 4k and bright content, the material is very bothersome. It was bearable with 1080p, and you could mostly ignore it. Now I hate it. It's very distracting from the otherwise really impressive picture my Sony puts out. All the advice I received was that my room would be too bright and I'd lose light from the white walls and light coming in from the window. I dont think it would have been anywhere near as bad based on recently comparing samples in the room for the non fire hawk and brighter Stewart offerings. Also, the picture is overall darker which in 4k and HDR content again is EVEN darker with the fire hawk. This is true, even with HDR turned off. If your room is facing the sun and is directly exposed with lots of windows, maybe, but if not, in would suggest looking at alternatives.
Yeah, its never very bright in my room. Mostly all 4k hdr content I'll be using. Do you have thoughts on an alternative?
 

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To be honest, I have had the fire hawk for 5 years now, and with 4k and bright content, the material is very bothersome. It was bearable with 1080p, and you could mostly ignore it. Now I hate it. It's very distracting from the otherwise really impressive picture my Sony puts out. All the advice I received was that my room would be too bright and I'd lose light from the white walls and light coming in from the window. I dont think it would have been anywhere near as bad based on recently comparing samples in the room for the non fire hawk and brighter Stewart offerings. Also, the picture is overall darker which in 4k and HDR content again is EVEN darker with the fire hawk. This is true, even with HDR turned off. If your room is facing the sun and is directly exposed with lots of windows, maybe, but if not, in would suggest looking at alternatives.
Yeah, its never very bright in my room. Mostly all 4k hdr content I'll be using. Do you have thoughts on an alternative?
I would collect samples and audition them in the room.
 

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The projector that came with our house just died, and in the process of figuring out how to replace that also got the idea of replacing our current screen (that also came with the house). I had no idea until I looked it up that Stewart screens would cost that much!!!!

It's a Stewart 92" Firehawk (80 x 45, so 16:9 ratio) - I really don't know much about AV stuff, just trying to figure out stuff here and there. If I were to replace it with a Silver Ticket screen I see on Amazon for a couple of hundred dollars, would the size increase (was looking at 120 or 135") outweight any benefits of the much more expensive current screen? It's in a theater room with minimal ambient light (and we never use this during daylight hours anyways).

And is it worth trying to sell the old screen, or should I just donate it somewhere?
 

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A better screen will give a better picture and it is easily noticeable if you ever compare full screens and not just samples. That being said you also need a screen that is suited for your application. if you don't have ambient light a white based screen with maybe a little gain to combat some wall and ceiling reflections would be a better choice. The Firehawk is definitely better for mild ambient light. I wouldn't go too big, stuffing your speakers in corners and the center on the floor is not a good formula for good sound. Acoustically transparent screens are usually better solutions for larger screens.

If you didn't want to go bigger I would replace the Stewart material with one of their white materials but that would still be considerably more expensive than a silver ticket screen so budget may need to be considered. That screen still has value and I bet you could sell it locally and make enough to pay for a Silver ticket screen or use it towards a Stewart Cima with Neve material. it is not as expensive as your screen but still quite a bit more than a silver ticket but it is in my opinion one of the better white screens out there and a bargain for the performance it offers.
 

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One of my friend tell me about a cinecurve screen (used) for sale and he told me that’s the measurement of the screen but i love to know is this a 160” diagonal or 150”

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Does anyone here have the Balón Borderless screen? I’m interested in getting one of those but haven’t seen much information about it. I was looking for some opinions and pictures of the edges, side view and mount. I was also considering the LuminEsse, not sure if there would be any advantage of one vs the other. This will be mounted on a velvet covered wall so I don’t really need a border but I wasn’t sure how the edgeless screen would look vs having a very small edge. Thanks.
 

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I'll give you my opinion with installing projector systems and having both an AT and solid screen HT in my home. The advantages of better audio with an AT screen far outweigh the slight decrease in picture quality compared to the solid screen.
Hi mate. Out of interest, what screen do you have? I'm after an AT setup and am currently yo-yoing between fabrics and types. I was set on Seymour XD - partly because of the cheap manual masking options - and am now looking at V6 and micro perforated options. Viewing distance will be between 12 and 13.5ft
 

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Shipping Lead time?

What is the current approximate production lead time for a custom Stewart screen?

In other words, from date a screen is ordered from a Stewart dealer, approximately how long currently before the screen will ship?
 
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