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This is a dedicated thread on the CX-A5000 preamp, please do not post pricing deals in the thread.

Reviews:
http://www.soundandvision.com/conte...surround-processor-review#gmlloPtLl1S8lwvY.97


http://assets2.listeningpost.co.nz/assets/CXMXA5100-NPB_113415_1.pdf


Yamaha CX-A5100 Owners Manual

Yamaha YPAO info

Yamaha YPAO info part 2

Latest Firmware
1.54 on 9/28/2015

1.61 on 10/01/2015
This firmware includes
1. Enables MusicCast functions. For further information, please visit http://www.yamaha.com/musiccast/
2. Improves connectivity of network music streaming services

1.63 on 12/1/2015
This firmware includes
1. Improves MusicCast system stability and performance

1.77 on 3/30/2016
This Firmware includes
1. The latest multi dimensional surround sound DTS:X playback
DTS:X decode
Neural:X upmixing processing
DTS Dialogue Control
2. HDR (High Dynamic Range) pass through and GUI overlay
3. Connectivity improvement with Rhapsody/Napster service as well as some STBs/TVs via HDMI.
4. MusicCast functionality improvement
i. Search function for vTuner
ii. Sort function for "Favorites"
iii. “Recents” feature to display recently listened 40 songs
iv. Audio sync of its external inputs with other MusicCast models in MusicCast Link mode. Some conditions may apply.
v. Speed Boost in Link Control (suitable for wired connection)
5. Fixing network initial setup issue when using WiFi WEP security method

1.82 on 7/29/2016
This firmware includes
1. HDMI connectivity improvement with certain Ultra HD Blu-ray player
2. Fixing sound cut-off issue of playing back certin Blu-ray discs
3. MusicCast Link function improvement
4. Playback improvement in Neural:X mode
5. DTS mode(see attached manual)
6. other functionality improvement

Additional information about DTS-HD and DTS:X playback
Some Blu-ray players may be unable to detect that this unit supports DTS-HD and DTS:X when they are connected to the unit through HDMI, and the players may fail to properly output a DTS signal.
If this happens, configure the unit's DTS MODE under the Advanced Setup menu
DTS Format Notifi cation Setting (DTS MODE)
This setting informs the player about the DTS formats that the unit supports.
Settings

MODE 1
(Default)
This mode conforms to the DTS:X standard.
Use this setting under normal circumstances.

MODE 2 Use this setting if the player fails to properly output a DTS
signal even when it is playing back DTS-HD or DTS:X content.


1.89 on 10/25/2016
This firmware includes
1, Added Playlist and Queue function
2, Compatibility with AAC format(internet radio)
3, Improved design of Source Screen
4, Added Disklavier Link function (for MusicCast models with AUX input)
5, Other operation improvement

2.04 on 1/5/17
This firmware includes
1, Add New CINEMA DSP Sound program “ENHANCED”
2, Support for Manual setup of less than 32Hz with parametric EQ (15.6Hz or more)
3, Other operation improvement



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I thought I saw an MSRP approaching 4 grand which would really be a kick in the teeth for the peasants like me, especially seeing the 5000 streeted for what, $2-$2500?

I don't know where my cap is, but it's well south of 4 large.

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The only pricing I've seen so far for the CX-A5100 is from New Zealand ($4490 NZD) which roughly equates to the current CX-A5000 MSRP pricing of $2999 USD. :)
Well, we'll see where the chips fall...for me (personally) to just add HDCP 2.2 and DTS X that would be a hefty leap.

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I'm not sure about the 5000, but do we think this unit will be able to push a second HDMI video source to zone 2 and send the audio out over the zone 2 pre outs? And even better, another audio input over the zone 2 preouts while a different source plays on the HDMI...or just another input methodology (like assigning another sources SPDIF to it) and playing that audio instead of the HDM audio?

If zone 3 can outpu an HDMI input that would work too.

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I'm not sure about the 5000, but do we think this unit will be able to push a second HDMI video source to zone 2 and send the audio out over the zone 2 pre outs? And even better, another audio input over the zone 2 preouts while a different source plays on the HDMI...or just another input methodology (like assigning another sources SPDIF to it) and playing that audio instead of the HDM audio?

If zone 3 can outpu an HDMI input that would work too.

James
I haven't seen the CX-A5100 manual to confirm, so going based on the CX-A5000 as there will likely be no change regarding this feature:

1. If the HDMI Zone out is set to Zone 2, then the same audio (although PCM 2.0) would be put out over the Zone 2 speaker posts and pre-outs.
2. If the HDMI Zone out is set to Zone 4, then a different HDMI PCM 2.0 audio source could be selected for the Zone 2 speaker posts and pre-outs.
 

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^ Thanks, I thought there was actually a third HDMI output (Z4). Kinda sucks that there's not a dual output for the main zone (pj and display). One can always buy a splitter, but at this price point there really should be a second.

And I called Yamaha to confirm that zone 2 can downmix multichannel inputs and they said it could, so hopefully that is indeed the reality and it doesn't have to be a 2.0 PCM input, otherwise people would be SOL on getting surround content to zone 2. I have experienced many multichannel sources NOT being able to be d-mixed to zone 2 with other pre's/avr's.

Similarly, if set to "Zone 4" I hope zone 2 can still downmix muiltichannel audio to 2 channel.

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Kinda sucks that there's not a dual output for the main zone (pj and display). One can always buy a splitter, but at this price point there really should be a second.
I can't believe that's true given that the XX50 series does that; in fact, I use the two outputs exactly as you describe (TV and Projector). The ZoneX audio also follows the ZoneX HDMI input (which can be re-assigned to something other than the "main" Zone).
 

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^ Thanks, I thought there was actually a third HDMI output (Z4). Kinda sucks that there's not a dual output for the main zone (pj and display). One can always buy a splitter, but at this price point there really should be a second.

And I called Yamaha to confirm that zone 2 can downmix multichannel inputs and they said it could, so hopefully that is indeed the reality and it doesn't have to be a 2.0 PCM input, otherwise people would be SOL on getting surround content to zone 2. I have experienced many multichannel sources NOT being able to be d-mixed to zone 2 with other pre's/avr's.

Similarly, if set to "Zone 4" I hope zone 2 can still downmix muiltichannel audio to 2 channel.

James

I listed only Zone 2 and Zone 4 as that was all that was required to respond to your question. As noted in the image below ... there are three settings for the HDMI Zone output:


 

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I can't believe that's true given that the XX50 series does that; in fact, I use the two outputs exactly as you describe (TV and Projector). The ZoneX audio also follows the ZoneX HDMI input (which can be re-assigned to something other than the "main" Zone).
Well, I only see 2 HDMI outputs, so at MOST I'd assume you lose your 2nd zone if you want two outputs in the same room.

If that's the case it sucks for a guy like me who uses two for the main room and the zone 2 for the outside/garage.

EDIT: ok, JD confirms it, thanks.

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Well, we'll see where the chips fall...for me (personally) to just add HDCP 2.2 and DTS X that would be a hefty leap.

James
I agree HDCP 2.2 is a biggie (at least for me)... Now I just want the PS4, and XBox to get with the program and add it too.
 

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I'm more concerned about that 64bit YPAO
Well, I'm more interested than concerned. I'd like to know more about what that means and is it different from the AVRs processing or not (as some have suggested).
 

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If this thing adds comprehensive subwoofer correction surely it will be right amongst the top of the list for a good number.

Do not the current units cut adjustment somewhere around 40-50hz ?!

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Does this unit compete against Marantz 8802A or 7702 ? I pulled trigger on 8802A as I didn't see much traffic on Yamaha thread and didn't want to take a chance on newly released product. But I am curious as to how Yamaha SQ compared to Marantz SQ historically.
 

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The news is out

According to What Hi-Fi the price will be £2500. It will also be MusicCast-enabled, a form of multi-room system which will now be available for all of Yamaha's latest products, including its receivers.

More to come today, I'm sure of it :) Yes, I too has one on pre-order...
 

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Does this unit compete against Marantz 8802A or 7702 ? I pulled trigger on 8802A as I didn't see much traffic on Yamaha thread and didn't want to take a chance on newly released product. But I am curious as to how Yamaha SQ compared to Marantz SQ historically.
Realize everything is subjective and dependent to speakers used, music choice and personal preference among others but from what I have read (note not experienced) the Marantz would be warmer. I am extremely interested to see a comparison between the 8802A and the 5100. If equivalent (i.e. a wash) I would pick the Yamaha for reliability.
 
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