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Originally Posted by Krutsch  /t/1390589/the-pioneer-bdp-61fd-63fd-150-450-lx56-2012-blu-ray-player-thread/30#post_22681135


Two separate issues on this topic:

- Bitstream versus LPCM - Linear pulse-code modulation (LPCM) is a method of encoding audio information digitally; it represents an audio waveform as a sequence of amplitude values recorded at a sequence of times, which is what differentiates it from bitstream.

LPCM is simply a decoding of the bits within the audio data file; it's not the same as converting from the digital to the analog domain, which is what your DAC does. My Pioneer player (BDP-62FD) doesn't even have a DAC built into it - it outputs only digital audio. The BDP-150 does have a DAC, but it's only used with the analog outputs (the white and red RCA connectors on the back of your player). So, even if you stream a FLAC audio file from a USB stick or a DLNA server and output LPCM from the HDMI or digital out (the 150 has only coaxial S/PDIF), the receiver is doing the digital to analog conversion (which is what you likely want for the best sound quality). BTW, this where jitter can become a problem - transmitting LPCM from your BD player to the AVR w/ LPCM because of the timing dependencies noted above in bold.

But I digress... and just don't worry about it; use the connector that works best for you (which will likely be the HDMI cable) and enjoy great sound and video from your new BDP-150.

- DLNA servers and folder structures. This is a very long topic and it would be hard for me to really help, since I don't use a Buffalo link station (and I don't even know which third-party DLNA server Buffalo uses). However, the two servers I use (Serviio for video and Twonky for music) each present their own folder structures based on metadata and their own configurations. It's not just a mirror of the physical file system, although it's usually possible to browse by folder. Look in your Buffalo setup and see if there are options that change the presentation of media to your liking. Be prepared, however; using DLNA to stream media is a learning curve and it will take some time for you to get things setup they way you want it.

Understood, will be using HDMI only to the Onkyo. I did not know that the DACs would not be ignored in the player if I was using the HDMI port for FLAC, MP3 or CDs.


As for DLNA, I think I need to call their tech support, as not all the folders/files are being displayed on identical drives, that are just using different setups: A. Buffalo LinkStation, B. USB Hard drive plugged into Asus router. Again, both drives have redundant data, for backup purposes, but the Pioneer is not reading them the same way in file structure.


For now, I need IR codes to make this work with my Onkyo's universal remote. Any four digit codes you know of I should be using? The DVD and CD player codes listed in the owner's manual of the Onkyo did not work.


Thanks,

///Arash
 

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Originally Posted by Arashjahn  /t/1390589/the-pioneer-bdp-61fd-63fd-150-450-lx56-2012-blu-ray-player-thread/60#post_22681307


For now, I need IR codes to make this work with my Onkyo's universal remote. Any four digit codes you know of I should be using? The DVD and CD player codes listed in the owner's manual of the Onkyo did not work.

Thanks,

///Arash

Yeah.. that's another tech support call to Onkyo. I have a Pioneer AVR and BD player, so it was easy to get everything to play together. if it's an older Onkyo AVR, you may need to just manually learn the functions from the BD remote to the Onkyo remote. Or, you can make life simple and use the Onkyo for switching and volume, et al., and just pick up the Pioneer remote to control movie playback.
 

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Originally Posted by Arashjahn  /t/1390589/the-pioneer-bdp-61fd-63fd-150-450-lx56-2012-blu-ray-player-thread/60#post_22710855


I wonder if there is a way to flash the BDP-150 to actually playback DVD-Audio?

If you own the DVD-Audio disc, you may consider ripping the tracks to a collection of FLAC files and playing them back over the network or from a USB drive. Google 'DVD Audio Extractor' for more information.


I personally own a Pioneer BDP-62FD so I could play my collection of DVD-A discs (along with my SACD and Redbook), but it's an option to consider.
 

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Does the 150 play FLAC from USB properly? No bugs like having to rename it mp3?


Such miserable info on this player. Why is it being ignored as an alternative to the panasonic 220 and sony 590? It has 2 USB ports, and looks 100x better than most of sony's/panasonic's lineup.
 

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For 150: Flac works fine from USB, no renaming of files etc. Flac doesn't work from dlna - what is already mentioned in manuals.


I tested this one for few hours and was really negatively surprised: no subtitles over dlna or from usb except for some mkv's - I add my subtitles (utf8) to existing mkv but then it hang after 2 minutes of playing...

For mp3, flac from CD you have to use menus from TV to start playing (there is no way to start playing mp3 without TV...). I have Philips pfl6 model: if I turn off TV, player is automatically turned off.


I've send it back already.


Anyway, it looks good...
 

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For 150: Flac works fine from USB, no renaming of files etc. Flac doesn't work from dlna - what is already mentioned in manuals.

I tested this one for few hours and was really negatively surprised: no subtitles over dlna or from usb except for some mkv's - I add my subtitles (utf8) to existing mkv but then it hang after 2 minutes of playing...

For mp3, flac from CD you have to use menus from TV to start playing (there is no way to start playing mp3 without TV...). I have Philips pfl6 model: if I turn off TV, player is automatically turned off.

I've send it back already.

Anyway, it looks good...

What about noise levels? I decided the 150 was too much of a gamble and bought a panasonic bdt220, but these damned things are really loud and the build quality is pretty poor.


As for MKV subtitles, well the Panasonic doesn't seem to do them either (network or USB). It can't even do chapters.
 

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I'm interested in Pioneer BDP 150 player. I would like to use it also as a CD player connected to my stereo amplifier through analog outputs. Is it possible to play audio CDs even if my TV(connected through HDMI) will be turned off? Is it true that this player will automatically turn my TV on when I insert the disc? Or is it so only when you insert video disc? Could somebody confirm whether this player shows track number on its display or not?


thanks for all your answers
 

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Anyone can provide me with an opinion on what´s better to use for the best video results?

I have the BDP-450 and VSX-1121, both 3D capable, both with Marvell Qdeo video processing...should I engage both HDMI outs on the player or use just the main out?

or is it virtually the same result with BD directly to TV and BD to AVR to TV connection (in video terms)?

the player has just come so I haven´t had a chance to hook it up a see for myself...

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jleho, there seems to be a problem with HDMI drop-out using separate AV out in the 62FD (62FD is the 450, there's no 63FD or LX56 anywhere: they seem to be vaporware).


Unless:

1. There are more custom video adjustments on AVR that you are going to use;

2. You can choose colorspace to output from AVR to best match your display;

3. The video HDMI output is better on AVR by eye or HDMI measurement;

4. There is AV sync issue via player to TV or

5. You prefer to use AVR for video switching


There is no real advantage going through AVR.


Since you're still sticking with Pioneer (I thought you gave up last year) I'd like to know how it compares to the 440. I almost picked up a 440 new at half price in Hong Kong earlier.
 

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Does anyone knows is it possible to make BDP-150multizone with 1.05 firmware? If then then how?

I bought it with 1.02 and it was playing all DVDs, now after upgrade to 1.05 it does not do that anymore


I was shocked because previous model i own (Pioneer BDP-320) did not lost DVD multizoning capabilities after firmware updates.
 

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I have difficulties understanding the differences between Pioneer 3D Blu-ray players BDP-450-K and BDP LX-55. Anyone here who knows and can explain?:)


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Bjørn Tore
 

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Originally Posted by pirx73  /t/1390589/the-pioneer-bdp-61fd-63fd-150-450-lx56-2012-blu-ray-player-thread/60#post_22854408


Does anyone knows is it possible to make BDP-150multizone with 1.05 firmware? If then then how?

I bought it with 1.02 and it was playing all DVDs, now after upgrade to 1.05 it does not do that anymore


I was shocked because previous model i own (Pioneer BDP-320) did not lost DVD multizoning capabilities after firmware updates.
Rattlebyte is selling an upgradeable chip for the 150. You do need to do some delicate soldering (or have someone do it for you) but it's pretty cheap (€35/$46 including shipping).

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Originally Posted by Nisei  /t/1390589/the-pioneer-bdp-61fd-63fd-150-450-lx56-2012-blu-ray-player-thread/60#post_22947261

Rattlebyte is selling an upgradeable chip for the 150 but you do need to do some delicate soldering and upgrading firmware is non-standard but it's pretty cheap (€35/$46)
Bluraychip.dk is also releasing a chip for the 150 very soon. It's solderless so you don't void your warranty and updates are done the regular way. However, it's probably going to cost $99 which is more than twice the price of the Rattlebyte chip.

There is custom firmware available for the 150 & 450 to make it region free DVD and multi region BluRay.. I have the 450 with the custom firmware and it works a treat, it even removes the Cinavia protection.


It's a really simple upgrade procedure too. I didn't even have to open my player up!!
 

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The Custom Firmware for Pioneer BDP-150 & 450 is Region Free for DVD and Region selectable for BluRay A B & C. As well as being free from Cinavia protection


The Multi Region Pioneer BDP-150 firmware is here (v4.03):

https://mega.co.nz/#!1E9DFa4S!ett95ClUQwJPDEZnLy89UkKsbYBmAroAVtT50yyt7BA


The Multi Region Pioneer BDP-450 firmware is here (v4.04):

https://mega.co.nz/#!FUdyAAqb!Bju5Bwhwv9QpDeC_11AsVDDJClIdNrAkQELLK5lYeKs



Both firmware versions need activating with a code unique to your bluray player.

The activation software is here:


Windows: https://mega.co.nz/#!EM0RAQBZ!Px6y9Do0g67F_8om6M5UAiHEmwJX7OBAuXa9LcKaqJ4


Linux: http://disk.yandex.com/public/?hash=K9movgqdD2FRh4w%2Bmg0FA7KCjqM6rHq1AU0XULPF3lE%3D

If using windows you will need C++ installed, available here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555


The activation software works like a keygen.. You install the Firmware, Get the Serial Number & MAC address from your Bluray players menu and put it into the activation program, The activation program generates a code that you type into your bluray player on the remote via the menu. It's actually quite easy.

The activation software only works on v4.xx Firmware so do not try on v5.xx




The custom firmware has a whole list of features including: Cinavia Free, Play ISO and BDMV files from an external hard drive, Multi Region BluRay & DVD, Improved playback of High Profile MVK etc.. I have a Pioneer BDP-450 and a Pioneer BDP-150, I've used the custom firmware for months now and it works a treat. The Bluray region is selectable via the settings menu, You press 3 3 4 4 on the remote while in the settings menu and it brings up a separate menu for selecting the BluRay Region.



Hope this helps someone.


Thanks to Ace of Snakes and the guys over at the Russian AV Forums for the info. http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=60:3656


It's been discussed at length over at the Pioneer BDP-140 thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1335651/pioneer-blu-ray-players-2011-bdp-140-bdp-440-bdp-lx55-bdp-53fd/1470



Mort.




P.s. If anyone missed it on the other thread the Pioneer BDP-140 Multiregion custom Firmware is here:

https://mega.co.nz/#!tR1BQaxI!WS3cJAconkRp1Wb8dYzHIyIzWvA78qjtI47VLx-W_D4


(It's also activation free)
 
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Is it possible to go back to Original firmware after the Custom Firmware ?


Is the custom firm better with DLNA (My BDP-450 does not see my mkv files on my Synology NAS...)
 

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I haven't tried switching back but apparently you can.


My DLNA works perfectly with my NAS drive and MKV files.
 
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