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The Sherbourn has three composite video outputs and a second HDMI output that replicates the main zone. I would assume you want the highest possible quality level. Ideally what you would want is a 4x4 HDMI matrix switch (assuming you have 4 or less AV sources) - all of your sources go to it first, then the four outputs go to each zone location, including one going to your theater preamp "zone" which then passes that along to the projector. So that would get you HD video via HDMI to each location. But to get the audio into any type of in-ceiling speakers, you have a couple of options. One is to run the analog audio from your sources to the receiver and then take the receiver's analog outputs to a separate multi-channel amplifier. Another option is to get a dedicated multi-zoom source component that integrates everything in one chassis, but at a price. An example of this would be a Niles Multi-zone controller: http://www.nilesaudio.com/product.php?prodID=ZR-4%20SERIES2&recordID=ZR-4%20Multizone%20Kit&categoryID=Multizone%20Products&catcdID=2&prdcdID=FG01610 This kit also gives you programmable keypads for easy local control in that zone for basic functions, plus an integrated tuner and amplification. They also make a six zone, fyi. The last option would be to run the HDMI to each zone and then take the analog audio output from the TV in that zone and feed it into a local system (i.e. receiver, amp, etc.) that will power the zone speakers.


My own personal system will be a 14 zone multi-zone system with a common equipment rack and one of the more advanced home automation systems (i.e. Savant) so everything is distributed. Using a multi-zone receiver is easy if you can live with composite (non HD) video for the video source to remote zones. With your budget, there are no HDMI zone outputs I am aware of beyond just one extra zone.


I guess I'll have to wait on that steak and beer!
 

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As far as the projector, I got the PT-AE8000U a couple of months ago and love it. If you have to cut corners and get one of the Epsons at best buy, ask the guys at Magnolia to show you what they can order. I did see some decent ones that were still around or slightly less than 2k that they could order. Maybe they just had them setup poorly but the ones that were in that 1,300 range that they had in the store just didn't look great to me compared to the PT-AE8000U and the Epsons in that mid-range class. Actually, point out some of these other build and those $7k and up projectors and show her how you're already cutting corners with the PT-AE8000U.
 

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Regarding the $2500 budget for the receiver (I'm rewriting this part due to posts above I hadn't read)


Honestly for the receiver I wouldn't go any crazier than a Marantz SR6008 ($1200) and spend the additional money on amplifiers or speakers.
http://www.amazon.com/Marantz-SR6008-7-2-Channel-Networking-Receiver/dp/B00CS4X8U0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1371845727&sr=8-2&keywords=marantz+sr7008


In fact this receiver would give you most of the same features and save you a ton of money.
http://www.amazon.com/Marantz-SR5007-Home-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0081N9180/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1371845826&sr=1-2&keywords=marantz+sr6007
 

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In fact this receiver would give you most of the same features and save you a ton of money.
http://www.amazon.com/Marantz-SR5007-Home-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0081N9180/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1371845826&sr=1-2&keywords=marantz+sr6007

Marantz recently released the SR5008 as an update to the SR5007, fyi: http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?CatId=AVReceivers&SubCatId=0&ProductId=SR5008
 

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The Sherbourn has three composite video outputs and a second HDMI output that replicates the main zone. I would assume you want the highest possible quality level. Ideally what you would want is a 4x4 HDMI matrix switch (assuming you have 4 or less AV sources) - all of your sources go to it first, then the four outputs go to each zone location, including one going to your theater preamp "zone" which then passes that along to the projector. So that would get you HD video via HDMI to each location. But to get the audio into any type of in-ceiling speakers, you have a couple of options. One is to run the analog audio from your sources to the receiver and then take the receiver's analog outputs to a separate multi-channel amplifier. Another option is to get a dedicated multi-zoom source component that integrates everything in one chassis, but at a price. An example of this would be a Niles Multi-zone controller: http://www.nilesaudio.com/product.php?prodID=ZR-4%20SERIES2&recordID=ZR-4%20Multizone%20Kit&categoryID=Multizone%20Products&catcdID=2&prdcdID=FG01610 This kit also gives you programmable keypads for easy local control in that zone for basic functions, plus an integrated tuner and amplification. They also make a six zone, fyi. The last option would be to run the HDMI to each zone and then take the analog audio output from the TV in that zone and feed it into a local system (i.e. receiver, amp, etc.) that will power the zone speakers.


My own personal system will be a 14 zone multi-zone system with a common equipment rack and one of the more advanced home automation systems (i.e. Savant) so everything is distributed. Using a multi-zone receiver is easy if you can live with composite (non HD) video for the video source to remote zones. With your budget, there are no HDMI zone outputs I am aware of beyond just one extra zone.


I guess I'll have to wait on that steak and beer!
That made my head hurt. This is what I would like to do. I will want to play stereo music from a source like a receiver, cell phone, PC, or Ipad on my back porch and my work shop but not necessarily at the same time. I may want to play a movie or even the big game in the theater while some one is playing music on the porch. When I play a movie or the big game in the theater I would like to have the choice to either play the same thing in the billiard room or watch something different. I was not planning 5.1 or anything in the billiard room as my wife already thinks I am crazy though it would be nice. (Maybe a use for the Bose) Can the Denon do that or not. I thought I read it can play different sources to 2 HDMI output zones. If not then maybe that is the wrong AVR
 

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As far as the projector, I got the PT-AE8000U a couple of months ago and love it. If you have to cut corners and get one of the Epsons at best buy, ask the guys at Magnolia to show you what they can order. I did see some decent ones that were still around or slightly less than 2k that they could order. Maybe they just had them setup poorly but the ones that were in that 1,300 range that they had in the store just didn't look great to me compared to the PT-AE8000U and the Epsons in that mid-range class. Actually, point out some of these other build and those $7k and up projectors and show her how you're already cutting corners with the PT-AE8000U.
LOL thanks but I may be ok since I have a Panasonic Plasma TV and 6 pairs of 3D glasses. She does not need to know that the Epson and Pansonic glasses are compatible.
 

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I missed updating yesterday so here is the progress. While built the cold air return duct in the rear soffit my son and son -in-law worked on the coffers.

here is where the cold air return enters the soffit it is about 10"x10" the duct will be the same size.
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130623_125343.jpg.html

this is what I will use for the return and supply vents
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130622_212524.jpg.html

here is where the right return vent will go same on left
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130623_125403.jpg.html

HDMI and CAT6 terminated for projector along with power bridge. Think the 2x8s will support it? LOL
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130623_173829.jpg.html

final shot with duct liner

 

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sounds like I would lose a pair of speakers in the theater for the porch with this one.

It probably has enough pre-outs that you could power those extra speakers with a $100 amplifier- and if they are porch speakers, likely you wouldn't be losing much if any sound quality.
 

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Let’s talk stage. WAF just could not wrap head around stage idea even though I showed many picks. This week on Monday it was time so I started roiling the roofing felt on the floor which she was helping with and that turned into a "It's so big the grand babies will not be able to lay on the floor to watch movies". I said where the stage is no one will want to be that close anyway. This went on for 45 mins with me laying the 2x8s in different locations to give her more of an idea. Luckily my cell rang and I talked to my mother for another 30 mins. Ever try to have a short conversation with your mom? After the phone call it was "Do whatever you like". Here is the framing
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130625_175524.jpg.html
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130625_175542.jpg.html

first layer of OSB pink stuff in
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Columns anyone? I made funky angled column to overcome getting my wires from the soffit down the sloped part of the ceiling. Think ribs of a boat upside down.

Scott on right did most of the magic. My friend Rob helped while I was lining the return with the duct liner. I think that stuff is itchier than pink fluffy
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130629_204239.jpg.html
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130629_204319.jpg.html

Judy and my daughter Teresa stufed them with white itchy stuff and did the dry wall
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130630_173644.jpg.html
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130630_173746.jpg.html

Sunday Rob and I built two columns in the rear and Jason finished all the OSB and Drywall in the Soffits. Yea.

http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130630_173626.jpg.html
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130630_173801.jpg.html

here you can see the cold air return. There is also one on the other side.
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130630_173813.jpg.html
 

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Great progress Bill! I really like the column design you came up with to extend up to the angled part of the ceiling. Definitely unique while still maximizing your pathway room.


You're probably due for a username change....instead of cw5billwade.......how about BIGmouthinGA?
 

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Awesome job, Bill! I missed the last few updates and love how everything is turning out. I look forward to seeing the rest of it come together.


Stay hydrated, my friend!
 

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Great progress Bill! I really like the column design you came up with to extend up to the angled part of the ceiling. Definitely unique while still maximizing your pathway room.


You're probably due for a username change....instead of cw5billwade.......how about BIGmouthinGA?
No one can live up to that handle but the one and only Big!! Again I would be dead in the water without Scott. He is quite the carpenter not to mention all my tools are in storage and I have been dragging his tools around in the bed of my truck for months.

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Awesome job, Bill! I missed the last few updates and love how everything is turning out. I look forward to seeing the rest of it come together.


Stay hydrated, my friend!
good thing Wal-Mart has water on sale
 

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I wanted to finish the columns so that the builder could mud the room. On Judy's advice we decide to let them put the drywall on the columns. It took her and my daughter all day last Sunday to do one.


We started by cutting 18"x11" MDF shelf notching all 4 corners for the uprights and brace with 2x2s and hang on wall then run the 2x2s uprights along the wall to the slopped ceiling.
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130703_165356-1.jpg.html
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130703_165406.jpg.html
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130703_165346.jpg.html

Next you want to run the 2x2s up the slopped walls. Ensure everything is level and straight.
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130703_203725.jpg.html

Time to install the front legs the challenge was keeping the angle the same since each column was built on a different level riser, floor and stage. We found measuring up the 2x2 on the slopped wall 13” was the trick and adjust the bottom accordingly. shelfs turned in to place to put tools

http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130703_203714.jpg.html

note the 2x2 on the ceiling above the column that was our center to strive toward
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130703_224420.jpg.html
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130703_185642.jpg.html

Now install the last pieces from the front uprights to the edge of soffit. Of course there were lots of small pieces to square everything up and attach drywall to. http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130703_230427.jpg.html
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130629_204319.jpg.html

just like ducks in a row. Columns not Rob that is.

http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/theater/20130703_230532.jpg.html

We worked until midnight on the 3rd as the week end would be spent at the lake with the grand children. Did I mention Judy’s Bday was the fourth of July? This is the cake my daughter in law made
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/faimly/20130704_141706.jpg.html

grandson's first fish
http://s629.photobucket.com/user/cw5billwade/media/faimly/20130706_100503.jpg.html
 
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