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;);) Are you guys still harping on this subject? How could you expect such overworked studios to have time to transfer THE WIND AND THE LION to DVD? Everyone knows the great classics, including ATTACK OF THE GIANT LEECHES, obviously HAD to be done first, especially in the face of overwhelming demand from the public :rolleyes: :p.



All joking aside---when you consider the situation of high caliber movies like TWATL not yet being on disc, a word from THE PRINCESS BRIDE applies: "Inconceivable!"

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How about "The Grapes of Wrath"?
 

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Grapes of Wrath is a magnificent film and I look forward to its eventual realease, which should be soon as Amazon is taking pre-orders. However, your query belongs in one of the "Movies I'd Like to See on DVD" type threads, rather than one dedicated to The Wind and the Lion. I could quickly come up with 10 or 20 titles myself right off the bat.
 

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I admit that I liked The Wind and The Lion, especially the sweeping musical score. However, I do not get the cultist allegiance generated in this forum treating it as if it is some sort of classic. If desert drama and awesome scope is what you want then LOA is the ticket. This is a pale comparative despite Sean Connery's presence. John Milius was a poor director (better at screenwriting) at best and I don't even want to go towards Candice Bergen as a believable actress. This film had some nice moments, but all in all a very average film in my opinion.
 

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If I simply read a description of this film I would probably never see it. In fact, when it first came out it looked like it would not be worth seeing, but a friend whose opinion I trust urged me to see it and I was hooked. You can pick it apart easily, and I could if I wanted to, but I was immediately caught up in its great romanticism, its witty dialogue, Brian Keith's tour de force impression of Teddy Roosevelt (by far the best I've ever seen), John Huston's John Hays, the American naval officers calling for military intervention, the action sequences (granted they are complete ripoffs of Kurosawa). I think the best action film ever made, an utterly flawless piece of filmmaking, is "The Seven Samurai" (I saw it when it first came out and have owned it in each succeeding format as it has become available) and I would certainly never compare the two, but I've seen The Wind and the Lion at least as frequentl and with as much enjoyment. I would never argue that it is a great film (e.g. Citizen Kane, The Silence, Lawrence of Arabia, Seven Samurai, Godfathers 1 & 2, La Ventura, etc., etc.) but it embodies, for me, great film entertainment (usually when someone tells me they found a film "entertaining" I grind my teeth as to me it indicates a lack of genuine emotional content and depth in the film). In a sense I guess it's a feel good movie, yet most movies characterized that way (e.g. Forrest Gump) I find loathesome. So maybe its a guilty pleasure, but I love it.
 

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MikeM,


My friend,


Hafta' mellow up and resort to romanticism when it comes to this movie!


Just remember this: TWATL is romantic in a way that is totally opposite of porno and cheap exhibition of the sex act. :D That's its ultimate siren-like enchanting call on the viewer who's willing to be raptured by the oh, too short of a magical moment... :)


-THTS
 

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MikeM,


My friend,


Hafta' mellow up and resort to romanticism when it comes to this movie!


Just remember this: TWATL is romantic in a way that is totally opposite of porno and cheap exhibition of the sex act. :D That's its ultimate siren-like enchanting call on the viewer who's willing to be raptured by the oh, too short of a magical moment... :)


-THTS
Frank:


You're kidding, right? If not, then what's with the anti-smut campaign and how does that relate to this LOA knock-off?


Magical moment for me was watching Norman Bates' mother pull back that shower curtain!
 

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If I simply read a description of this film I would probably never see it. In fact, when it first came out it looked like it would not be worth seeing, but a friend whose opinion I trust urged me to see it and I was hooked. You can pick it apart easily, and I could if I wanted to, but I was immediately caught up in its great romanticism, its witty dialogue, Brian Keith's tour de force impression of Teddy Roosevelt (by far the best I've ever seen), John Huston's John Hays, the American naval officers calling for military intervention, the action sequences (granted they are complete ripoffs of Kurosawa). I think the best action film ever made, an utterly flawless piece of filmmaking, is "The Seven Samurai" (I saw it when it first came out and have owned it in each succeeding format as it has become available) and I would certainly never compare the two, but I've seen The Wind and the Lion at least as frequentl and with as much enjoyment. I would never argue that it is a great film (e.g. Citizen Kane, The Silence, Lawrence of Arabia, Seven Samurai, Godfathers 1 & 2, La Ventura, etc., etc.) but it embodies, for me, great film entertainment (usually when someone tells me they found a film "entertaining" I grind my teeth as to me it indicates a lack of genuine emotional content and depth in the film). In a sense I guess it's a feel good movie, yet most movies characterized that way (e.g. Forrest Gump) I find loathesome. So maybe its a guilty pleasure, but I love it.
I couldn't have said it more elequently myself. Good news on confirmation. Have the Amazon notify email in and will of course be watching Digital Bits for more info as it develops.


TWATL is simply an epic with interesting American Century foreshadowing at a pivotal historical time. I cannot think it could be much different than LoA, though I admit the sand at certain moments looks similar. Keith is great, as the honor associated with the opposing forces leaders is a good compare contrast (no LoA parrallel).


Some folks like epics (I am a sucker for them) and they automaticallly get an extra star on the ratings scale, particularly pre CGI.


Can't wait, I'll have to "fire up" the LD to hold me over. Hope the Roughriders mini-series on TNT also comes to DVD, albiet not as compelling as TWATL.


Tim
 

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MikeM,


Your description/opinion of TWATL is interesting. I may agree ....... but will have to bring out my VHS copy again for a refresher look.


I would be EXTREMELY interested in your opinion of another desert saga .............. "Caravans" - with none other than Anthony Quinn and based on Michner's novel.


(Good luck finding this rare one to view unless you want a challenge - currently goes for well over $100 in used VHS, only, and rental places usually have never heard of it.)
 

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Hopefully the January street date sticks, as soon as I heard about it, I told my wife that would be the PERFECT birthday gift for my dad.
 

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'The Wind and the Lion will include commentary by writer/director John Milius, a "behind the scenes" featurette and the theatrical trailer. ' in thedigitalbits.com today. Release 1/6 based on Warner's Most requested poll.


Tim
 
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