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ROTFL. Good luck. I nievely thought "ehh I guess I'll pick one up and see what its all about", oh a month ago. Aside from displays Ive yet to see one in person...


As far as the virual console, I think its kinda dumb. For that 5 bucks you have to pay to download one game, you could by a nintendo with 5 games, lol, granted you'd still have to pay shipping. Ive still got all my nintendo consoles anyway, hundreds of NES games, a fair share of SNES, and two dozen N64. I guess it wouldnt be so bad if it was like $1.50 for a game, then its like nothing. $5 isnt much, but its not nothing either. I could buy lunch with that, and its not so much the purchase price of one game that puts me off, but if I wanted to buy a couple or several, then its just not worth it at all.
 

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I like the Virtual console for its convenience factor. I can play The Legend of Zelda without blowing on a cartrige or messing with cables. While these are small bonuses I feel my purchase of the games has been worth it thus far. That said I am obviously limited to released content only.
 

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I like the Virtual console for its convenience factor. I can play The Legend of Zelda without blowing on a cartrige or messing with cables. While these are small bonuses I feel my purchase of the games has been worth it thus far. That said I am obviously limited to released content only.

I still have my original NES (plus another for parts), a bunch of NES games, and yet I agree wholeheartedly with you. It's so much easier than trying to get a stubborn old cartridge to work (but I will do it for Blaster Master or Bionic Commando...lol). Just point, click, and go. My disappointment is the lack of titles imho. There are tons and tons of titles that should be on there by now.
 

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If you own the old titles, you can emulate legally (ish) on your PC and get any game whenever you like. You're kind of at the mercy of Nintendo as far as the schedule for wii re-releases, and they are definately going to spread it thin right over the Wii's lifespan.


Not worth the cash for me.. the titles feel overpriced.
 

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Blaster Master would be a definite purchase!
 

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The VC is great, IMO. I never owned a console before the N64 so I finally get a chance to play some classics. Also, as was mentioned above, the convenience of simply clicking on a game to play from the startup screen is fantastic. A huge plus for me is that the VC also has a save-state feature for every emulated system other than the N64. That means, when you exit a game to the Wii menu, it's like leaving your classic console on "pause" until you decide to come back to the game (even if the Wii is turned off). This feature is wonderful for me since I often only get 10-15 minutes to play at one sitting. It's also great for games that use continues. Now you can keep going until you reset the software. Very cool. For someone who never owned these games and likes to do things LEGALLY, I think the prices are very good, especially since I'm buying games considered to be true "classics" of the day.


Also, the Wii remote works very well for games that don't require the classic controller add-on. And when you do need the classic controller, it is a great controller, especially for the price.


All in all, I think the VC is one of my favorite features of the Wii. It's very well done and I find the releases so far to be solid. I'd like more top-notch Nintendo games, but I think it's good that they are giving breathing room to other publishers first since it will ensure good 3rd party support.
 

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ROTFL. Good luck. I nievely thought "ehh I guess I'll pick one up and see what its all about", oh a month ago. Aside from displays Ive yet to see one in person...

Yep. I think Nintendo is purposely hordeing them to maintain demand. I mean the fact that it's still hard to find makes it more desireable. There's enough of them out there that the seeds of want keep spreading to all those who have played it. Nintendo will probably selectively release large numbers of them sporadically over the next few months.
 

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I think the VC isnt that great either. Until they start getting out the 64 games out and such along with lowering the price, Im gonna wait. Im not paying 4 bucks to play SMB or 10 dollars to play mario 64. Ill get on my emulator for that for now.
 

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Mario Kart 64 is currently the only VC I am considering buying... maybe Goldeneye.
 

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Yep. I think Nintendo is purposely hordeing them to maintain demand. I mean the fact that it's still hard to find makes it more desireable. There's enough of them out there that the seeds of want keep spreading to all those who have played it. Nintendo will probably selectively release large numbers of them sporadically over the next few months.

Yeah, this is such a genius idea - to not sell to people who are ready to buy on impulse. Wow, what a strategy!


However, I do agree that there is about to be a "big" release. Whether or not Nintendo is responsible for it is debatable. Just not sure that would be such a wise thing to do and pass up quick sales.
 

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http://www.meanmachinesmag.co.uk/wii/available_now.php

Damn, I thought they would have more games pout than that. I personally don't see anything wrong with paying $5 and under for a old title. You can expect them to give them to you free because you bought the new system and the games are older than most of the kids playing now a days. I have tries the emulation on the PC before and didn't like it. Hopefully they start putting out more games sooner.
 

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Damn, I thought they would have more games pout than that. I personally don't see anything wrong with paying $5 and under for a old title. You can expect them to give them to you free because you bought the new system and the games are older than most of the kids playing now a days. I have tries the emulation on the PC before and didn't like it. Hopefully they start putting out more games sooner.

Just FYI, the pricing scheme is only $5 for old NES games. It gets kind of expensive otherwise.


NES - $5

SNES - $8

N64 - $10

Genesis - $8

TG-16 - $6


Just to be a contrarian, I had a Wii, finished Zelda, then returned it. It started gathering dust and there aren't a whole lot of games on the horizon that interest me. Plus I have a large LCD HDTV and the Wii via component looks pretty bad compared to my 360 and PS3. Even tried running it through a DVDO VP30, one of the best scalers available, and it still looked pretty bad.


Will definitely pick up another when there's a Black Wii out along with the next Mario. It's a fun system for what it is but it's not for everyone. Then again, I get my emulation fix through my old XBox so that's one Wii positive that was kind of lost on me.
 

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Just FYI, the pricing scheme is only $5 for old NES games. It gets kind of expensive otherwise.


NES - $5

SNES - $8

N64 - $10

Genesis - $8

TG-16 - $6


Just to be a contrarian, I had a Wii, finished Zelda, then returned it. It started gathering dust and there aren't a whole lot of games on the horizon that interest me. Plus I have a large LCD HDTV and the Wii via component looks pretty bad compared to my 360 and PS3. Even tried running it through a DVDO VP30, one of the best scalers available, and it still looked pretty bad.


Will definitely pick up another when there's a Black Wii out along with the next Mario. It's a fun system for what it is but it's not for everyone. Then again, I get my emulation fix through my old XBox so that's one Wii positive that was kind of lost on me.


Thanks for the price difference info. I can see why you would return it, I have heard alot about the picture clarity with the Wii. What is the black Wii?
 

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The progressive scan and the ability to play these old games without screwing around to get the game to work is a great thing. Unfortunately the library is tiny and growing at a snail's pace. The release schedule seems to be completely random too and failing to exploit obvious connections. Here are two such examples:


Excite Bike.

It saw its second sequel in 20 years (Excite Truck) released as a Wii title. Interest in the Excite Bike franchise was at a peak because of that, yet Nintendo didn't exploit this obvious connection by releasing NES Excite Bike and the N64's Excite Bike 64.


Castlevania.

The game Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin was released for the DS which, from what I've heard, was a direct sequel to Castlevania Bloodlines. The VC didn't have any Castlevania titles on it to exploit this wave until Christmas. I can kinda understand that because great Castlevania games are released every year, but Bloodlines was the direct predecessor to Portrait of Ruin! It should have been released both to ride the wave of interest in 2D Castlevania and to exploit the fact that these two particular games are tightly connected!



If Nintendo and all are going to take the snail's pace philosophy for releasing VC titles, why not release ones that would exploit the success of related games being released for the other systems and the Wii?
 

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Thanks for the price difference info. I can see why you would return it, I have heard alot about the picture clarity with the Wii. What is the black Wii?

No problem.


The Black Wii is the inevitable edition of the Wii that isn't white.
Back when the Wii was announced we saw multiple colors, then, like the DS, was released only in White to simplify production. Once demand starts to fall and you can find a Wii in stores easily (guessing March-late Spring) it seems like a good guess that they'll release some of those alternate colors to re-energize their sales.


They did it with the DS by releasing Black and Pink versions a few months after the original white was released.


It's a minor thing, but I prefer my A/V equipment to match. Still annoys me that my HD-DVR is a gaudy mix of Silver and Black, and that the 360 (despite the ability to switch faceplates) is still primarily white. I'd get a 360 faceplate and put it on a shelf if it didn't need so much open air ventilation to avoid lockups.


So I'm going to wait for a Black version of the Wii, which should come eventually. Plus, on a more practical note, the White remote gets really dirty and nasty with a lot of friends using them. Black just seems more elegant to me.
 

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I personally don't see anything wrong with paying $5 and under for a old title. You can expect them to give them to you free because you bought the new system and the games are older than most of the kids playing now a days.

I don't expect them for free but I'm probably not going to get $5 of enjoyment out of most of the titles on the VC. I bought Mario 64 right away, but haven't bought any other titles due to the prices. They need to come way down (like half of the current prices for most titles).
 

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I don't expect them for free but I'm probably not going to get $5 of enjoyment out of most of the titles on the VC. I bought Mario 64 right away, but haven't bought any other titles due to the prices. They need to come way down (like half of the current prices for most titles).

The prices are fine, it's the quality that's lacking. $5 for Urban Champion? No thanks. $5 for Bionic Commando? Yes please.
 

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The prices are fine, it's the quality that's lacking. $5 for Urban Champion? No thanks. $5 for Bionic Commando? Yes please.

The pricing is another thing that seems odd with the virtual console. Free emulators are all over the web, and they've even gotten so sophisticated that they can run on the browser itself instead of requiring the user to install and emulator and the game roms. The legality, morality, and quality of using these things is debateable, but what's not is the fact that they exist and people use them and therefore they are like a serious competitor to Nintendo's VC. I think knocking the price down a bit would help ward off that competition. I know I've read a lot of comments from people saying they were not buying many games because of the price, and I believe I am that way too. I think I would have spent more in total at this point on cheaper games.


The pricing also seems dumb because not all NES games are worth $5 to the mass market. I doubt few would complain about spending $5 for a AAA NES title, but why's that price the same as the price for Urban Champion, NES Tennis, and Donkey Kong Jr? It also disappoints me in knowing that $5 is far too high for many old titles, so Nintendo probably won't bother putting them onto the VC. I loved Clu-Clu-Land, but who else out there would spend $5 on that? At $5 they'd probably sell it to me and the original developers, but at $1 they'd probably sell a boatload. I bet these old games without save files are easy to create too: I bet they just recompile the code or pass the ROM through something and have an intern whip up the digital manual.
 
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