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I have a old Denon AVR-3801. I guess it's not that old. It has everything except Dolby Pro Logic 2 and the HDMI and DVI inputs. So technology has not changed that much in 5 years.
I have always day dreamed about owning separates. The cost was always 5K to get into a cheap separates setup. Along comes outlaw audio offering separates direct from the distributor.
Two years ago Outlaw Audio seemed like a great deal. You could get separates with 100w amp for $1,500. I can't remember the name of the old pre amplifier but it was kind of ugly. Today, Outlaw has the now old Model 990 that they still call "New" with awards from 2005 listed. The problem is that in the past Outlaw always seemed to lower their price as supply increased or their costs decreased. The model 990 is still $1,100 today. The price has not changed in 2 years. They've bumped up the power on the 100w amp to 125w.
To get the same package as the previous pre amp and same amplifier (case still looks the same) one must pony up an extra $400. I think Outlaw had sales on the old pre pro amplifier at $1,398 at times but I'm going off the $1,500 regular price. Which begs the question "is Outlaw Audio turning into bandits." The margins that stores such as Magnolia Audio charges for Speakers and high end amps or separates is huge. Speakers are the biggest racket. I'm not made of money and I want a good deal on my next piece of equipment.
Remember when $500 was a lot to spend on a receiver? It seems now the more you spend the better the merchandise must be. I can't afford some $20,000 Mark Levinson piece of art er audio equipment.
Has Outlaw forgot it's roots and decided that they are a major brand name now? I still would like to get Outlaw Separates but feel as if I will end up replacing my Denon AVR-3801 with a Denon AVR-3807 in the next 6 months.
I still have 2 Elan Z-660's which run my inwall speakers. I paid $390 for each amplifier and they were retailing for $800. I bought it from an Elan distributor which of course is frowned upon. America was built on the bartering system. If I could pay half of what the Elan amps cost and the distributor still made a tidy profit, just think what Outlaw Audio is making by cutting out the middleman.
I just wish Outlaw Audio would pass the savings onto the customer the way they used to a couple of years ago. My Denon does have a sweet sound to it. But it's a receiver and not separates. A guy can dream...
I have always day dreamed about owning separates. The cost was always 5K to get into a cheap separates setup. Along comes outlaw audio offering separates direct from the distributor.
Two years ago Outlaw Audio seemed like a great deal. You could get separates with 100w amp for $1,500. I can't remember the name of the old pre amplifier but it was kind of ugly. Today, Outlaw has the now old Model 990 that they still call "New" with awards from 2005 listed. The problem is that in the past Outlaw always seemed to lower their price as supply increased or their costs decreased. The model 990 is still $1,100 today. The price has not changed in 2 years. They've bumped up the power on the 100w amp to 125w.
To get the same package as the previous pre amp and same amplifier (case still looks the same) one must pony up an extra $400. I think Outlaw had sales on the old pre pro amplifier at $1,398 at times but I'm going off the $1,500 regular price. Which begs the question "is Outlaw Audio turning into bandits." The margins that stores such as Magnolia Audio charges for Speakers and high end amps or separates is huge. Speakers are the biggest racket. I'm not made of money and I want a good deal on my next piece of equipment.
Remember when $500 was a lot to spend on a receiver? It seems now the more you spend the better the merchandise must be. I can't afford some $20,000 Mark Levinson piece of art er audio equipment.
Has Outlaw forgot it's roots and decided that they are a major brand name now? I still would like to get Outlaw Separates but feel as if I will end up replacing my Denon AVR-3801 with a Denon AVR-3807 in the next 6 months.
I still have 2 Elan Z-660's which run my inwall speakers. I paid $390 for each amplifier and they were retailing for $800. I bought it from an Elan distributor which of course is frowned upon. America was built on the bartering system. If I could pay half of what the Elan amps cost and the distributor still made a tidy profit, just think what Outlaw Audio is making by cutting out the middleman.
I just wish Outlaw Audio would pass the savings onto the customer the way they used to a couple of years ago. My Denon does have a sweet sound to it. But it's a receiver and not separates. A guy can dream...
