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What's up guys, I'm new here and completely new to the whole speaker world lol.

I'm planning to do an Atmos setup but I will also be using it for music.

My configuration is below. The room isn't very big so I assume one sub would be sufficient. Would you recommend I get floor standing speakers with no sub or bookshelf speakers with a sub?

Configuration One (Bookshelf + Sub):
2 x SVS Ultra Bookshelf Speakers http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-bookshelf
2 x SVS Ultra Surrounds http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-surround
4 x B&W CCM663 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bowers-...hite/3526156.p?id=1218424271210&skuId=3526156
1 x SVS Ultra Center http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-center
1 x SVS PC2000 Sub http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/cylinder/pc-2000
Amp: Pioneer Elite - 1215W 9.2-Ch. Model: SC-85 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer...lack/6378107.p?id=1219219320514&skuId=6378107

Configuration Two (Tower - No Sub):
2 x SVS Ultra Bookshelf Speakers http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-bookshelf
2 x SVS Ultra Tower http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-tower
4 x B&W CCM663 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bowers-...hite/3526156.p?id=1218424271210&skuId=3526156
1 x SVS Ultra Center http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-center
Amp: Pioneer Elite - 1215W 9.2-Ch. Model: SC-85 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer...lack/6378107.p?id=1219219320514&skuId=6378107

Picture of room (Television will go inside enclosing) is attached

Thanks for the help!
 

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I won't comment a ton other than to say: bookshelf + subwoofer is going to beat the pants off towers just about every time. Especially for movies.

I have no experience with the products you're asking about; however, SVS has a stellar reputation and a 45 day in-home trial so there's no harm in going for it!
 
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I won't comment a ton other than to say: bookshelf + subwoofer is going to beat the pants off towers just about every time. Especially for movies.

I have no experience with the products you're asking about; however, SVS has a stellar reputation and a 45 day in-home trial so there's no harm in going for it!
Thanks :), yeah I chose them because I've read lots of good things. My primary concern was which would be better for Audio but I assume bookshelf + sub is better for both.
 

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I went with below for my to be built home theatre setup.


2 x SVS Ultra Towers
2 x SVS Ultra Surrounds
1x SVS Ultra Centre
1 x SVS PB-2000 Sub


Will add SVS Prime Satellite for Atmos on ceiling. Towers provide that soundstage in a decent size room that bookshelf cannot.
 

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Thanks :), yeah I chose them because I've read lots of good things. My primary concern was which would be better for Audio but I assume bookshelf + sub is better for both.
Undoubtedly yes. Reproducing low frequencies (especially 50hz and down) is not an easy task. It takes moving a lot of where which takes big drivers, big amplifiers, and big enclosures. Tower speakers can do a reasonable job (there are people who swear by full-range towers) but they simply can't approach the "gut punch" effect of quality subwoofers.

FWIW, I would advise against the Pioneer Elite AVR and go with something like the Marantz SR7009. MCACC (the room correction software included with Pioneer Elite receivers) doesn't EQ your subwoofer(s). Audyssey, which comes with units from Denon, Marantz, and others will EQ the subs which is EXTREMELY valuable. Since you're looking at spending over $1500 on an AVR anyway, you can find the SR7009 for somewhere near price from some dealers (ask around the threads for those units). I will never buy another MCACC device since switching to Audyssey (and I owned 2 Pioneer Elite AVRs).
 

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I have big towers. I prefer towers, and I'm not a fan of bookshelves on stands, that being said, for movies - you do not need towers. If I were to redo theater again for Atmos, I'd try to do identical bookshelves all around. You want directional speakers for Atmos.
 

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Undoubtedly yes. Reproducing low frequencies (especially 50hz and down) is not an easy task. It takes moving a lot of where which takes big drivers, big amplifiers, and big enclosures. Tower speakers can do a reasonable job (there are people who swear by full-range towers) but they simply can't approach the "gut punch" effect of quality subwoofers.

FWIW, I would advise against the Pioneer Elite AVR and go with something like the Marantz SR7009. MCACC (the room correction software included with Pioneer Elite receivers) doesn't EQ your subwoofer(s). Audyssey, which comes with units from Denon, Marantz, and others will EQ the subs which is EXTREMELY valuable. Since you're looking at spending over $1500 on an AVR anyway, you can find the SR7009 for somewhere near price from some dealers (ask around the threads for those units). I will never buy another MCACC device since switching to Audyssey (and I owned 2 Pioneer Elite AVRs).
ha now you have me confused

should I get http://www.bestbuy.com/site/denon-i...lack/4986009.p?id=1219106278526&skuId=4986009 or http://www.bestbuy.com/site/marantz...lack/4094019.p?id=1219096316810&skuId=4094019 ?
 

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Those are almost the exact same product Denon and Marantz are owned by the same company--D&M Holdings--guess what the D and M stand for. ;)

I personally own the Marantz AV7702, the pre/pro version of the SR7009 (because my speakers warrant separate amplification--something not at all worth discussing with the speakers you have in mind). Basically, you can't go wrong with either one. But do yourself a favor and don't order from Best Buy. You can get a much better deal if you shop around.
 

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What's up guys, I'm new here and completely new to the whole speaker world lol.

I'm planning to do an Atmos setup but I will also be using it for music.

My configuration is below. The room isn't very big so I assume one sub would be sufficient. Would you recommend I get floor standing speakers with no sub or bookshelf speakers with a sub?

Configuration One (Bookshelf + Sub):
2 x SVS Ultra Bookshelf Speakers http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-bookshelf
2 x SVS Ultra Surrounds http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-surround
4 x B&W CCM663 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bowers-...hite/3526156.p?id=1218424271210&skuId=3526156
1 x SVS Ultra Center http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-center
1 x SVS PC2000 Sub http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/cylinder/pc-2000
Amp: Pioneer Elite - 1215W 9.2-Ch. Model: SC-85 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer...lack/6378107.p?id=1219219320514&skuId=6378107

Configuration Two (Tower - No Sub):
2 x SVS Ultra Bookshelf Speakers http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-bookshelf
2 x SVS Ultra Tower http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-tower
4 x B&W CCM663 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bowers-...hite/3526156.p?id=1218424271210&skuId=3526156
1 x SVS Ultra Center http://www.svsound.com/speakers/ultra-series/ultra-center
Amp: Pioneer Elite - 1215W 9.2-Ch. Model: SC-85 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pioneer...lack/6378107.p?id=1219219320514&skuId=6378107

Picture of room (Television will go inside enclosing) is attached

Thanks for the help!

Any decisions/updates? I'm looking at SVS bookshelves, but concerned about lack of matching in-ceiling ATMOS speakers. I have an SVS sub already
 

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I won't comment a ton other than to say: bookshelf + subwoofer is going to beat the pants off towers just about every time. Especially for movies.

I have no experience with the products you're asking about; however, SVS has a stellar reputation and a 45 day in-home trial so there's no harm in going for it!

Big +1 on the "+subwoofer".


I am a tower guy and still say they need a solid sub to go with them.
The only reason I choose tower over bookshelf is because any crossover is not a brick wall and a tower have a little bit more room to play (but this is me with no budget in mind).


Either way you go, tower or bookshelf, I think a good sub is a must for movie and also music foundation.
I would not listen to music without my subs on (rock music).


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Thanks :), yeah I chose them because I've read lots of good things. My primary concern was which would be better for Audio but I assume bookshelf + sub is better for both.

Like my previous post.


The very best would be towers with sub (only if budget allow-it, if not, do not loose sleep over-it and Enjoy since the difference is very small:)).
Second best, bookshelf with sub.
Then towers and then bookshelf by them self.


Ray
 
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