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Too Many Choices??

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I have just finished a room that we want to use as a family theater and a family room. It has windows on one side with black out curtains. The ceiling is 8 ft 8 in tall and the distance from the screen to the projector is approx. 15 ft.. I have installed a Dalite (video spectra 1.5 gain) electric screen that comes down out of the ceiling. It is 54" X 96". I have the room wired with HDMI and will need a trigger for the screen. I have researched projectors and I think I have boiled it down to 4 projectors. These are: Infocus 7205; Infocus 7210; Panasonic Pt-Ae900U; and Mitsubishi Hc3000U. I need your help. I want to get the best projector for the money what do you all think?
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Well you have 4 vary nice projectors on your short list. The AE900 and the Mits HC3000 have a slight advantage being the latest produced and have the latest color/software going for them.


From your short list I would narrow it down to the Mits (dlp) and AE900 (Lcd) and between the 2 you really need to see the AE900 because of it's smooth screen technology(it softens the picture sharpness to eliminate the screen door found on LCD panels). This softer focus bothers some folks so you really need to see it and deiced for yourself.


Now as for the DLP if you can see the Mits great, but if not almost any of the newer 720 DLP's will get you in the ball park of sharpness, every DLP I looked at from the lowest price up the 15,000 dollar units had the same film like look and sharpness, as long as they were set up right.


Don't worry about Contrast levels (blacks) for a demo, contrast has a diminishing return after 2000:1 the difference above that level is quite small and usually can only be seen in a side by side showing, NOT that you can't tell, it's just vary had to see especially if you have to travel form one dealer to another. Sometimes the room/lighting/screen around a projector will make it look better than another when it's really not.


Last but FIRST on my list is PICK THE BEST DEALER, research them as much as you did the Projector.


Hope this helps a little.
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i could use some help as well.

we have been using a 42" panny ed plasma for some time (great black level) for hd and dvd movies and i want to get our first front projector go with a greywolf 106" screen.

the market is changing so quickly that i'm afraid to make a move...

we have a similar room set up as hopalong32 with a 19-20' throw.

i'm new to the front projector scene and feeling a bit overwhelmed by the many choices.

also, we live in a rural area with no way to see for ourselves.

i would appreciate any advise from the experts here.

thanks and happy new year.

eric
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there seems to be some talk about the smoothscreen softening the image


it doesnt


it just gets rid of the SDE


anyone who has put a windows image on the 900, will tell you, its perfectly sharp and focussed...


the 900 just makes films appear more filmlike, then its competitors.....this is down to how panasonic calibrated the image to look like


I highly recommend the 900, I think its the sweetest of the latest lcd PJs.
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it's beside me how one can basically "smart blur" an image to remove SDE without effecting sharpness at all... it would seem impossible. in fact, the image comparing the Z4 and AE900 in which the camera macro-photoed the text, the text is noticably less sharp.


the most powerful software package that features comprehensive blurring algorithms and DOESN'T have to worry about processing data on-the-fly, ie: Photoshop, can't "smooth" an image without there being some slight change in sharpness. at 1px radius, the smart blur feature will make small objects look a bit more 'clay-like'.


from a distance, you probably can't tell... up close, the image may not have screen door but it will certainly not be as sharp as the Z4, IMO.
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it's beside me how one can basically "smart blur" an image to remove SDE without effecting sharpness at all... it would seem impossible. in fact, the image comparing the Z4 and AE900 in which the camera macro-photoed the text, the text is noticably less sharp.


the most powerful software package that features comprehensive blurring algorithms and DOESN'T have to worry about processing data on-the-fly, ie: Photoshop, can't "smooth" an image without there being some slight change in sharpness. at 1px radius, the smart blur feature will make small objects look a bit more 'clay-like'.


from a distance, you probably can't tell... up close, the image may not have screen door but it will certainly not be as sharp as the Z4, IMO.
You are 100% correct and nicely said in just a few paragraphs,it however would have taken me 5 PAGES to explain pixel softening and how it effect the whole picture and even then I'm not sure the old dusty brain could go back that far when I was a Graphic salesman in the printing industry. Sold more than a few high res digital cameras all the way up to $100,000 scan back systems for still life, man I still dream photo shop and pixel sharpening. Panny just went in the opposite direction my clients wanted to go, who knew!! :)
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Yes, do not rule out the Sanyo Z4 as it's the lowest price competetor in the field right now at avscience sponser.


It is amazingly sharp (with great colors as well).


I recently saw a $7000 Dwin TV4 dlp which had the best blacks and shadow detail I have ever seen (much better than the Z4 although the Z4 does black and shadow detail quite well) but it was not as sharp as the Z4.


Shelly
The only problem with the Z4 is that it doesn't have a 12v trigger. I was hoping to have a profector that I could trigger my screen.
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