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New Toshiba XD-E600 ($79.99)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...RTING_DVD.html
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-XDE600.../dp/B002JCSBDK
http://www.pcsuperstore.com/products...ba-XDE600.html
http://www.cheaperdvdplayers.com/sto...ded-detail.jsp

Second generation XDE: Cheaper revision of first-generation XD-E500 with aspect ratio setting problem (with non anamorphic DVD´s) fixed and improvements in XDE algorithms?...

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"The next product will actually be a cheaper revision of the first-generation XDE-500."
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1573
http://www.toshibaxde.com/models.html


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XDE technology in new japanese Toshiba RD-X9 DVD/HDD recorder:

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Proprietary video processing technology "XDE" (eXtended Detail Enhancement) was also new. XDE is a combination of technology and technology and to reduce the noise contour correction information technology to reproduce high-quality images. Improve the algorithm by adding a rising wave of new brightness and color boundaries, while emphasizing that too much to ENHANSU image, in the best shape now than it XDE works. Also, the review of the various parameters to optimize the effectiveness enhanced.
http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/lifestyle...6/news056.html
Japanese > English

Improvements in XDE algorithms of Toshiba XD-E600?... I don´t know ...


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I played with the 500 when it came out. My opinion was that it was a step in the right direction but it was not mature, tweaked, not ready for prime time. IF Toshiba has addressed some of the 500's issues this could be a worthwhile product. I am of the school that tries to keep time off my blu-ray and play dvd's and music cd's through my DVD player.
 

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Please refer to PDF file. This is from Toshiba.

Is this new one supposed to be a cheaper version of the first or are they making improvements. Unfortunately I can't get any of the translation from the japenese sites about this new one. Does anyone know if this is a better or worse one as there are really great deals out there on the E-500? Any english reviews yet?
 

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Cheaper version of Toshiba XD-E500 and as a revision, supposedly with corrections and improvements...

Same Zoran + TMU655 (chipset with XDE technology) in the new Toshiba XD-E600?...Let´s wait the reviews...


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World exclusive: Toshiba on the future of XDE DVD upscaling tech, next-gen kit plans revealed

Steve May - 3 January 2009 - 5:56pm


Despite some early scepticism, XDE processing has proved be elegant and beneficial, with few, if any, down sides. But what happens next?


To learn more of Toshiba’s plans for XDE – and its vision of home entertainment technology in general – Home Cinema Choice was invited to meet with its leading XDE architects in Toshiba’s Tokyo HQ...


Sinichi Mizuuchi, Toshiba’s group manager responsible for Digital AV product sales in Europe and Asia, says that his team have no shortage of ideas on how to exploit the technology. He told me that future products may well include DVD recorders and network-capable DVD players.


‘We have ideas as to where we want to take XDE. Our core product will remain a DVD player, but what we are thinking is adding a level of network functionality. We believe our technology can be used to improve the image quality of network sources such as YouTube.’

The challenge, he says, is how to distinguish and isolate noise in low-bitrate images, and thereby avoid enhancing it.

However, don’t expect a network-capable XDE DVD player to appear in your high-street AV store just yet. The next product will actually be a cheaper revision of the first-generation XDE-500.


‘I can tell you that the next model we introduce will be priced lower than the current XDE-500,’ says Mizuuchi-san. ‘This has to be done because the cost of Blu-ray players is coming down. We have the reduce the price of our product – so we think the next model will look more like a regular DVD player in terms of chassis design and finish.’

So will the price be the only significant difference?


‘Yes, the E500’s successor will be at a lower price which will enable us increase volume. But at the same time, we are planning future innovations. In addition to our network plans, we are also considering a DVD recorder using XDE technology. XDE also has a role to play for those making home movies using normal camcorders. We have a lot of ideas about how these algorithms can be applied. XDE can be applied to any file format: MPEG2, h.264 – it doesn’t matter.’
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/feat...f+XDE+revealed


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I played with the 500 when it came out. My opinion was that it was a step in the right direction but it was not mature, tweaked, not ready for prime time. IF Toshiba has addressed some of the 500's issues this could be a worthwhile product. I am of the school that tries to keep time off my blu-ray and play dvd's and music cd's through my DVD player.

The XDE-500's are all gone in my area and the XDE-600's are not in yet. I like the 1080p with 24fps upconvert for all standard dvd's. Does any one other than Toshiba make a standard upconverting dvd player that does 1080p/24fps? Include any that are being released soon and are not over $129.95
 

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New Toshiba XD-E600 in Toshiba XDE site:



http://www.toshibaxde.com/index.html
http://www.toshibaxde.com/models.html
http://www.toshibaxde.com/xd-e600specs.pdf


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Can't see any differences between the 500 and 600. Am I missing something? Can anyone who has found any please inform me. Also, because of the low price for the 600 have they dropped anything from the 500 so that (if the 500's were available) they might actually be a better dvd player?
 

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Can't see any differences between the 500 and 600. Am I missing something?

One (visible) difference is the adition of USB connection in Toshiba XDE600.


As i said before, corrections and improvements are expected (let's see if they will be realized in practice ...) in this second generation XDE dvd player...


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Until someone gets their hands on one of course this is speculation. But it appears to me the 600 is actually a step down, cheaper, cost less, etc., from the 500. Toshiba's announcements read that we will see a product that is a step up from the 500 so in practice the 500 will me the middle of their product line, the 600 the entry level and whatever is coming will the top of this model line.


And I would not be surprised if Toshiba's blu-ray player for sd-dvd playback uses the XDE technology. So it could be, and again I know this is pure speculation, the top of the model line in regards to the application of XDE technology may not be a sd-dvd player at all but a blu-ray deck.


At this point there is nothing about the 600 that would make me want to try one. I'm guessing it is indistinguishable in performance from the 500 but its just more cheaply made.
 

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And I would not be surprised if Toshiba's blu-ray player for sd-dvd playback uses the XDE technology.

I agree.

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I'm guessing it is indistinguishable in performance from the 500 but its just more cheaply made.

Well, we don´t know if the Zoran solution is still used or not with Toshiba XDE chip...(or if the XDE algorithms have been improved or not...)


I think that one of the most awaited corrections is in correct aspect ratio setting with non anamorphic DVD's...


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i agree.



Well, we don´t know if the zoran solution is still used or not with toshiba xde chip...(or if the xde algorithms have been improved or not...)


i think that one of the most awaited corrections is in correct aspect ratio setting with non anamorphic dvd's...


Roberto

new 600's now available fropm on line merchants and toshiba. Unfortunately my search revealed they are all at msrp of $79.99.


Hope you are right about the non-anamorphic dvd's being correctly handled. Any hope of a review in the near future and if so who is likely to have one???
 
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