Cool...what's the retail going to be on these?
Would be better if the could be had for under $8K.
Would be better if the could be had for under $8K.
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Trainer Dave is getting an HDCP compliant DVI 50" for Xmas. That's Right!
But he still does not know what to play on it.
Drum Roll, I checked with other sources, starting December 15 the first wave of the new fujitsu 50's will hit the states, they are not going to be named 5006. Something wholly other.
Brighter, better AVM, and DVI HDCP.
Wouldn't that be ironic if he beats the rest of us to a 50 incher with a functioning hdcp DVI input?
TO THOSE THINKING OF BUYING A 5004. HOLD THE PRESS!!!!!
Drum Roll, I checked with other sources, starting December 15 the first wave of the new fujitsu 50's will hit the states, they are not going to be named 5006. Something wholly other.
Brighter, better AVM, and DVI HDCP.
Wouldn't that be ironic if he beats the rest of us to a 50 incher with a functioning hdcp DVI input?
TO THOSE THINKING OF BUYING A 5004. HOLD THE PRESS!!!!!
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Initially the same with a possible drop in late summer.
So Peter, would you like a special price on my 5004? Seriously though, the only feature that has me curious is the improved AVM. I could care less about "brighter" since these units are so bright already and as you know, I question the whole issue of DVI. However the improved AVM might be interesting.
Hey, I just hit 3,000! Don't I get a free 5005 or 5006 or 5004 Rev A?
Seriously though, the only feature that has me curious is the improved AVM. I could care less about "brighter" since these units are so bright already and as you know, I question the whole issue of DVI. However the improved AVM might be interesting.Hey, I just hit 3,000! Don't I get a free 5005 or 5006 or 5004 Rev A?
a mod with 3 fans perhaps...
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Same as what? And, for someone not very familiar with Fujitsu's product line, would you mind providing more details (or posting a link)? I know what DVI HDCP and AVM are, but, for example, what's the resolution? Number and type of inputs? ...
Thanks.
- Dave
| Originally posted by CINERAMAX Initially the same with a possible drop in late summer. |
Thanks.
- Dave
With the latest Panny 50" basically unchanged from last year (except the addition of a broken DVI card capable slot) I woud guess that the next Fuji 50" would have the same 1366X768 rez as today. However, number and types of input would be useful. Hmmmm, this could be the plasma for me.
I've been reading about DVI, and I'm happy to hear that Fujitsu is on board. But one wonders, what would I do with DVI? With the AVM working internally on the monitor, I don't use an external scaler. My set-top box is from TW Cable, and it has no digital out. My DVD player is from Panasonic, again, only with component outs. I don't think DVI would do me any good, because I couldn't use it.
Gleeesh!
I don't know about others, but given the board guesses on future releases of the Pioneer and knowing the current version of the Panasonic this, info make me think long and hard before deciding on either of those right now....and I need to buy two (1 for Mom) for Christmas!
I personally hate the idea of dropping $5800-$7500 on a display that would need a $500-$2000 update to handle HDCP in the next couple of years.
If this Fuji is really AVAILABLE (in a local store) on Dec 15, I'm going to wait and make my buying decision then. If not I guess I'll take a pick between the Panny and Pioneer on availability/pricing.
Peter - Got any info on the inputs? Any expectations that this might improve the black levels on the display? Is December an "announcement" date..or one of general availability?
I don't know about others, but given the board guesses on future releases of the Pioneer and knowing the current version of the Panasonic this, info make me think long and hard before deciding on either of those right now....and I need to buy two (1 for Mom) for Christmas!
I personally hate the idea of dropping $5800-$7500 on a display that would need a $500-$2000 update to handle HDCP in the next couple of years.
If this Fuji is really AVAILABLE (in a local store) on Dec 15, I'm going to wait and make my buying decision then. If not I guess I'll take a pick between the Panny and Pioneer on availability/pricing.
Peter - Got any info on the inputs? Any expectations that this might improve the black levels on the display? Is December an "announcement" date..or one of general availability?
DVI/HDCP is for high definition. The powers that be in broadcasting are threatening to encrypt all HD content, so that you'll need a DVI/HDCP capable display to display any high def in the future. AFAIK, the jury is still out on whether or not this will happen, but if it does, anyone without DVI/HDCP will be SOL. So, for now, it's insurance.
Another question about the Fuji display - does it support discrete IR codes for source switching and on/off?
- Dave
Another question about the Fuji display - does it support discrete IR codes for source switching and on/off?
- Dave
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Whoa. . . HDCP's main function is to prevent copies. It's geared for both high definition and standard definition DVI delivery - if what my buds at the STB companies are saying is true!
Regarding Fujitsu discrete IR codes, they exist now (4233, 4242, 5002, 5004, 6101), I'd bet that continues in any new models that may emerge.
| Originally posted by Dave T DVI/HDCP is for high definition. . . . Another question about the Fuji display - does it support discrete IR codes for source switching and on/off? - Dave |
Regarding Fujitsu discrete IR codes, they exist now (4233, 4242, 5002, 5004, 6101), I'd bet that continues in any new models that may emerge.
Thanks, David.
Do you have answers for any of the other questions? (Price, inputs)?
- Dave
Do you have answers for any of the other questions? (Price, inputs)?
- Dave
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This is precisely why I find the whole DVI issue a big yawn. If it's needed in the future to watch HD (which I serioulsy doubt due to immediate lawsuits) I'll worry about it then. The brightness issue is about as unimportant to me as almost anything I could think of. Do you know of anyone complaining about the lack of brightness of Fujitsus? The only feature that has some potential interest is the improved AVM. We'll have to see how that actually manifests itself.
| Originally posted by DFletcher I've been reading about DVI, and I'm happy to hear that Fujitsu is on board. But one wonders, what would I do with DVI? With the AVM working internally on the monitor, I don't use an external scaler. My set-top box is from TW Cable, and it has no digital out. My DVD player is from Panasonic, again, only with component outs. I don't think DVI would do me any good, because I couldn't use it. |
This is good news.
Peter, any news on 1080p, 70"+ units? That is when I am upgrading.
Peter, any news on 1080p, 70"+ units? That is when I am upgrading.
Hmmm. This makes things very interesting for my buying decisions. I have absolutely no doubt that a 50" Fujitsu with functioning DVI/HDCP, even if it were in all other respects identical to the current model, is the display I would want the most. The question is whether I can justify the $8500 price tag vs. $5500 for the Pioneer. If I can manage to contain myself and push the purchase until next summer, maybe we'll see something closer to price parity. Must...contain...the urge...
I'm, with you Ken! DVI this, DVI that... The current analog technology is not found lacking, imo. VGA to a plasma is terrific; almost perfect. DVI would be good, but not worth really caring about.
Given the way that the industry moves on things, the idea of the copy protection will probably not fly. What about all the sets out there now? All the receivers? DVHS? All just gonna become instantly obsolete? I doubt it.
Plus, if it ever did come to that, why couldn't someone build a $500 HDCP compliant DVI->VGA cable...
Given the way that the industry moves on things, the idea of the copy protection will probably not fly. What about all the sets out there now? All the receivers? DVHS? All just gonna become instantly obsolete? I doubt it.
Plus, if it ever did come to that, why couldn't someone build a $500 HDCP compliant DVI->VGA cable...
CINERAMAX, do you know if this new 50 incher will use Panasonic glass like the old ones, or NEC glass like the 60 incher. (Please say Panasonic, please say Panasonic...)
Panasonic glass I am pretty sure. The contrast ratio/resolution is a giveway.
MAB I am opening a reservation list with your name on it ,1080p 73", delivery 1st Quarter 2006, 2 years after the introduction of the 1365 x 768 73". We do have an existing list for that one, with two guys building their new homes.
MAB I am opening a reservation list with your name on it ,1080p 73", delivery 1st Quarter 2006, 2 years after the introduction of the 1365 x 768 73". We do have an existing list for that one, with two guys building their new homes.
It is not a question of "this works with that" or " they can not make the existing equipment obsolete with copy protection"...
It is a question of pursuing the best image possible, and that is realized with DVI in the digital domain.
You sound like you are happy with what vga offers to you. That is fine. But do not go around and justify your purchase by bashing DVI since you have no use for it.
I wonder if you use DVI to an LCD monitor for your computing needs...Than again you may use an old fashion vga analog CRT, who knows..
MAB
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It is a question of pursuing the best image possible, and that is realized with DVI in the digital domain.
You sound like you are happy with what vga offers to you. That is fine. But do not go around and justify your purchase by bashing DVI since you have no use for it.
I wonder if you use DVI to an LCD monitor for your computing needs...Than again you may use an old fashion vga analog CRT, who knows..
MAB
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| Originally posted by Felgar I'm, with you Ken! DVI this, DVI that... The current analog technology is not found lacking, imo. VGA to a plasma is terrific; almost perfect. DVI would be good, but not worth really caring about. Given the way that the industry moves on things, the idea of the copy protection will probably not fly. What about all the sets out there now? All the receivers? DVHS? All just gonna become instantly obsolete? I doubt it. Plus, if it ever did come to that, why couldn't someone build a $500 HDCP compliant DVI->VGA cable... |
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