You need to measure the response at your listening location. Maybe get a mic and run Room EQ Wizard off a tablet.
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Treble to harsh
So I know that this is a home audio forum but it seems like no one wants to help me on the car audio ones. Hoping that someone here can help. I installed a pioneer avh 2300 dvd head-unit with a Kenwood kac- m1814 and JBL gx9638 speakers into my Toyota Camry. I’m am running a eq of flat and everything sounds great and clean but it seems like there is way too much treble. On the head unit i can control a range of frequency so I try and adjust the higher ones. But If I turn it down it goes down but the vocals become muffled. Is there any way to fix it or did I do something wrong please let me know.
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Try a low shelf filter at 2000hz, cutting by 3-6dB.
Did you run the Auto EQ?So I know that this is a home audio forum but it seems like no one wants to help me on the car audio ones. Hoping that someone here can help. I installed a pioneer avh 2300 dvd head-unit with a Kenwood kac- m1814 and JBL gx9638 speakers into my Toyota Camry. I’m am running a eq of flat and everything sounds great and clean but it seems like there is way too much treble. On the head unit i can control a range of frequency so I try and adjust the higher ones. But If I turn it down it goes down but the vocals become muffled. Is there any way to fix it or did I do something wrong please let me know.
See page 91.
https://pdf.crutchfieldonline.com/ImageBank/v20171005130400/Manuals/130/1302300NEX.PDF
I don’t think my head unit has audio eq.
Try different speakers. They account for 90 % of what you hear. Perhaps a two-way with soft dome would better appeal to you?
This says the AVH2300NEX has that capability:I don’t think my head unit has audio eq.
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD+Receivers/AVH-2300NEX
Sound Quality For All
Your car and your music are as unique as you are. With a Pioneer NEX in-dash receiver, sound quality features like built-in Auto EQ and Time Alignment, 13-Band Graphic Equalizer with touch panel swipe settings and built-in high/low pass crossover with adjustable points and slopes provide you with the controls to tailor the listening experience to your vehicle and listening preferences. The CD-MC20 microphone is required for Auto EQ features and sold separately.
Time to dig into that user manual, OP! That said, I still think you'd be better off replacing the speakers, if you are still within the return window.This says the AVH2300NEX has that capability:
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/DVD+Receivers/AVH-2300NEX
Sound Quality For All
Your car and your music are as unique as you are. With a Pioneer NEX in-dash receiver, sound quality features like built-in Auto EQ and Time Alignment, 13-Band Graphic Equalizer with touch panel swipe settings and built-in high/low pass crossover with adjustable points and slopes provide you with the controls to tailor the listening experience to your vehicle and listening preferences. The CD-MC20 microphone is required for Auto EQ features and sold separately.
Read your JBL manual carefully---they often allow you to adjust the tweeter's output manually by pushing it once to cut something like 3 or 6db off the treble, and again to reset it to default setting.JBL gx9638 speakers into my Toyota Camry. I’m am running a eq of flat and everything sounds great and clean but it seems like there is way too much treble. On the head unit i can control a range of frequency so I try and adjust the higher ones. But If I turn it down it goes down but the vocals become muffled. Is there any way to fix it or did I do something wrong please let me know.
Also, many car speakers have moveable tweeters---I would also try to tilt the tweeter downwards or to one side so that more of the treble gets absorbed by your car's interior.
Your head unit's EQ should allow you to lower only the last couple of bands...that's what I had to do with my JBL bluetooth earbuds that I use in the gym, now the EQ curve looks like an upward slope from left to right.
As you well know the vast majority of folks don't read their manuals.Time to dig into that user manual, OP! That said, I still think you'd be better off replacing the speakers, if you are still within the return window.
Thanks for helping me gajCA. But it’s the avh-2300 dvd. I’ll look into the manual for more information
Instant gratification generation ...As you well know the vast majority of folks don't read their manuals.
That does not have auto EQ it seems but there is a 5 band equalizer so you should be able to cut the highest band by as little as 1db to as much as 12db without affecting the vocal range.Thanks for helping me gajCA. But it’s the avh-2300 dvd. I’ll look into the manual for more information
See pages 46 and 47.
https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/Manuals/Car/AVH-P2300DVD_OwnersManual011111.pdf
"Human speech spans the range between 70 Hz and 10 KHz.
The absolute lowest note a human has been known to sing is D2, which has a frequency of 73 Hz. This requires effort and strong lungs, and is much lower than the lowest human speaking voice, barring those whose vocal cords have been badly damaged.
The absolute highest note a human has been known to sing is G6, which has a frequency of 1567 Hz. As with the lowest note, singing this high requires effort and strong lungs.
Frequencies above 2000Hz tend to leave the voice category and enter the effect category; most sounds in this area are slight variations that provide clarity in the human voice. At the 4000-10000 Hz range are the sounds produced by plosives and sibilants, the breath effects for certain letters, such as the puff of ‘P’s and ‘B’s, as well as the hiss of ‘S’es and ‘T’s."
Well, what are the front speakers? Now, put the fader all the way forward: too much treble? Put the fader all the way rear: too much treble?JBL gx9638 speakers into my Toyota Camry...
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