[rprice54]

Okay, so I've been playing around with my BR player (panasonic BD60) Onkyo 3007 and Epson 8500. Between the three machines, the settings variables seem endless.


At first, out of the box, BR set to 1080P/60, Onkyo set to "through" on to the PJ looked pretty good (okay, awesome). I tried fiddling with the Epson's CFI but couldn't stand the video look on film material (Iron Man BR).


Then I discovered the 1080/24fps setting on my BR player. I still have the Onkyo set to 'Through' (and 'Game Mode' as well to minimize any processing by the AVR) and now I've been playing with the PJ settings more. With 24fps, I find the CFI is much more effective, and doesn't add any video look (that I can tell) and is way smoother than 4:4 which was painful to watch on fast pans. So now I feel like I've found the right balance of film look and smoothness.


The only problem is now there's a significant audio/video sync issue. I can set the delay on my AVR to 50 msec and that seems to be back in sync- but if I change to a video source (say animated movies) that are played back at 1080/60 I have to change the delay back.


I'm guessing the delay is at the PJ handling the 24fps and frame interpolation? Is there any other way around it?

 

[BuffaloJim]

Although I don't have experience with any of the 3 specific components you own, I have a feeling the there's not a lot more you can do. There's simply going to be more processing with some modes, and that processing takes time. You might turn off the CFI, but there still may be some delay, just a little less. At least your AVR has a switchable time delay; I've seen some video setups that had horrible delay issues and there was nothing that could be done with what they had.


Jim

 

[IndianaGeorge]

Doesn't your AVR have an auto lip sync setting?

 

[rprice54]

it does, but when I enable that feature the delay becomes 120msec for all sources- and apparently it only works with other TVs that support it. My PJ doesn't, and for my Wii, and DVD, and satellite, etc the 120 is way too far off. I can't turn it on just for one source and it doesn't seem to work anyways.


Interestingly, I turned on the 24fps output for my DVD (ie 480P --> onkyo --> 1080/24p) and the delay is only 15msec.


I wonder if some of the delay is from my BR player converting to 24Fps. I may need to post over there...

 

[IndianaGeorge]

Doesn't the 8500ub have HDMI 1.3? If so, then I believe it should support lip sync.

 

[rprice54]

I'll dig around the menus and look, but if I turn it on with my AVR, the issues are even worse. I'll see if I have to turn something on the PJ. I assumed since it doesn't have speakers it doesn't worry about lip sync issues.


EDIT: From looking over at the blu ray threads, this seems to be a known issue with my particular panasonic player and 24fps, which is weird, I thought the film was stored on the disc as 24fps and thought this would require less processing...

 

[Martin from mtl]

Hi ! I have the same issue here... made some tests and found out its the 8500UB that is causing this... image is about 1/2 of a second after audio... frustrating...


its only occuring when 24p is activated.... wont do it on DVDs...or blu-ray with the 24p option off...


I,m using panasonic dmp bd-80 as blu-ray player. Went to local store with it and made tests...everything was working fine... i bought a monster cable, 750HD 11.2 Gbps... didnt solve the problem... it leaves me with the conclusion its the 8500ub that is defective...