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Let's start with the fact that I don't know what I am talking about in the slightest, but looking to learn.

I am setting up an audio system in our bedroom to go with the TV I just wall mounted. Had first hoped to find a powered soundbar that would just work and sound good. Couldn't pull that off. So now I have the following plan....

OPPO-103 acting as pre/pro with an Apple TV and a cable box connected by HDMI. The OPPO will feed a Rotel RMB-1075 amp (yes maybe a waste and maybe overkill but I have it available) that will power a Leon HzUTLX (passive soundbar with L, C and R channels all in one cabinet, specifications say the speakers have a frequency response of 110-22kHz).

I want to add a sub to this configuration. With the L, R and C speakers only going to 110 I think it will make a material difference to have a sub in the system. If I have that wrong I would be happy to hear it.

So then the sub. It needs to be connected wirelessly and it needs to go under the bed which limits it to 5.5" in height. I have found two options at very different price points.

1. Dayton Audio SA230 amp with VS8 sub and their wireless kit Sub Link XR. About $650 delivered.

2. Paradigm Millenia sub and PT-1 wireless transmitter. There is also the paradigm Perfect Bass Kit. At list price about $1700 for all three.

Which brings me to my question. What exactly does the PBK do? How can I tune the Dayton option (at 1/3rd the price)?

The Dayton amp has phase compensation from 0-180, a frequency control that adjusts the low pass crossover if using the L/R inouts, which I don't plan on doing, and a Gain control. It also has a bass boost that lets you increase a specific frequency between 25-50 Hz by 0-12dB.

The OPPO will let me set the L R C as small speakers and set the crossover. Given the frequency response range of the Leon speakers does it make sense to set this crossover at 110???

Any thought on how to tune this up would be appreciated. Any comments on the equipment itself or alternatives can also help.

TIA
 

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MiniBones said:
Which brings me to my question. What exactly does the PBK do? How can I tune the Dayton option (at 1/3rd the price)?
Paradigm Perfect Bass Kit (PBK) - Overview

To do something like this manually, you need to be able to measure the room response and to make adjustments to it.

Measurement options
1. Dayton OmniMic v2 - an all-in-one, plug-and-play solution available at parts-express.com ($298, shipped)

2. UMIK-1 calibrated microphone from miniDSP.com ($75 + shipping) + Room Equalization Wizard (REW) - free measurement software

FR adjustment options
A highly-popular and relatively inexpensive option for tailoring FR is the miniDSP 2x4 ($105 + shipping) + 2Way Advanced plug-in ($10 + shipping).

The OPPO will let me set the L R C as small speakers and set the crossover. Given the frequency response range of the Leon speakers does it make sense to set this crossover at 110???
On the product page, the FR is listed as "L/C/R: 110–22kHz" with no variance (i.e., +/-3dB). I'd start with 120Hz, try different increments up to, say, 160Hz and go with the setting that sounds best to you.
 

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Quick question guys.........I currently am running a pretty simple low end 5.1 setup in a listening area of approx. 12x14. My setup consists of a Yamaha RX-V675, Bic FH-6T fronts, Bic FH6-LCR center, Fluance Bi-pole surrounds, and a Sony 10" Sub. I am slowly upgrading my system as finances allow. I am considering changing out the Sony Sub to a Bic F12. The Sony does a good job for what it is worth but I want more.


My question is this...................Would the F12 be overkill in this small listening area?


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In a 12' x 14' room, dual JTR Captivator 2400s might be overkill. A single BIC F12 is fine. :)
So, the F12 should give me better performance then?

Thanks for the replies and sorry for hijacking the thread. I posted this in the wrong thread and shoulda started a new one.:eek:
 

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Paradigm Perfect Bass Kit (PBK) - Overview

To do something like this manually, you need to be able to measure the room response and to make adjustments to it.

Measurement options
1. Dayton OmniMic v2 - an all-in-one, plug-and-play solution available at parts-express.com ($298, shipped)

2. UMIK-1 - calibrated microphone from miniDSP.com ($75 + shipping) + Room Equalization Wizard (REW) - free measurement software

FR adjustment options
A highly-popular and relatively inexpensive option for tailoring FR is the miniDSP 2x4 ($105 + shipping) + 2Way Advanced plug-in ($10 + shipping).


On the product page, the FR is listed as "L/C/R: 110–22kHz" with no variance (i.e., +/-3dB). I'd start with 120Hz, try different increments up to, say, 160Hz and go with the setting that sounds best to you.
Thanks for the advice. Don't know I need to tune the bedroom setup, but it is interesting to consider for the theatre in the basement. I think my professor has the necessary DSP eq functions in it to make this a good way to kill some time and learn a few things.
 

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SA-W2500:
- 10" driver
- 60W RMS amp
- 28-200Hz +/-?dB


F12:
- 12" driver
- 150W RMS amp
- 25-200Hz +/-?dB


You'll get noticeably more overall output and better extension.

Thanks again Sir ;)


One final question................Because of furniture placement constraints, the current sub is located under an end table with only 16" of vertical clearance. The F12 is approx. 17.25" high and 14" or so wide.. Any reason why the F12 couldn't be turned on it's side?
 
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