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Ok, so I used the "break-in" disc I found on these forums to 100 hour break in my new panasonic TC-P50X1, then I used dnice's settings in the service menu and picture menu. It looks great for "new" movies, but some of my older movies still are a bit off. For instance, with my 1974 Russian movie, The Mirror (on a decent dvd from Kino Video...a company that usually puts out pretty good releases), there is a scene where a branch is in front of the sky and there is a "halo" around the branch and leaves as you can see here:

http://s86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ent=Mirror.jpg (not a great picture, but you should be able to get the idea)


Now, I realize it is a somewhat grainy print to begin with, but it seems like the "ghosting" noise around the branch and leaves should not be there?


I'm watching it on a Yamaha S1800 outputting at 720p. Am I asking too much from my dvds? Or is it an issue with my DVD player? I mean, aside from some minor things like that, the picture really does look pretty great.
 

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Well how is the DVD player feeding the display?


Component video (RGB cable)?

HDMI?

Svideo?

Composite video (the yello RCA jack)?


That's the first thing we need to know. It sounds like you are using HDMI in order to get 720p. In looking at the image it looks like classic mosquito noise which is an artifact of MPEG compression. The unconversion process enhances this artifcat. Other than reduding the SHARPNESS setting, not much can be done about it outside of a new player that has some built in noise reduction.
 

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By "an artifact of MPEG" compression you mean it is a problem with the disc?


My TV has an "MPEG NR" function under the advance options of the picture menu...is that related (I have it set to "off" right now).


Does a DVD player with built in noise reduction basically just lower the sharpness? Or is that a good feature to have?
 

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First try turning down the sharpness. If that doesn't work, then there is edge enhancement in the source. Not much you can do if that is the case.
 

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Originally Posted by isley /forum/post/18168809


By "an artifact of MPEG" compression you mean it is a problem with the disc?


My TV has an "MPEG NR" function under the advance options of the picture menu...is that related (I have it set to "off" right now).


Does a DVD player with built in noise reduction basically just lower the sharpness? Or is that a good feature to have?

That should help. Try turning it on. The problem is part of the MPEG process. Advancements have been made on both encoding equipment and players to help reduce it. But it's not a bad disc or aby hardware problem you can have fixed.
 

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Turn the "true life" setting to 0 for that dvd and see if that helps (default is 3). I like the feature on the Yamaha 1800 but it adds a lot of noise if set to high on the right dvd.

Could just be low quality encode like others have said. My wife is form Poland and Ive watched some pretty bad/low quality dvds from over in that part of the world.
 

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Cool, I'll try that. And like I said, it is a good quality American version, Kino is usually pretty good, though the dvd is probably 10 years old at least...so maybe advances in encoding could be part of it.
 
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