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Unexpected motion sickness

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Cameron

Discussion Starter · Jun 15, 2001

Well now that I have a working VGA cable for my Dreamcast and G15. I got crazy with Dilard and setup my Computer2 SDTV to work with my 16:9 screen. Now the Dreamcast stuff works perfectly.

So I was playing Rayman for about 5 minutes and suddenly I noticed that I was feeling quite sick. Yep good ol' motion sickness. So I figured that I could just persevere and build some immunity, but I had to quit about 1 minute later so I wouldn't puke.

I guess that this isn't any big suprise, because Quake on my 21" monitor makes me a bit sick too.

So do any of you guys have this problem? If so, what do you do to get over it???

Thx,

Cameron

p.s. I don't get sick watching DVDs or anything thank heavens. I had a friend over the other day and the DishNetwork HDTV feed made him sick too on the sport screens. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Jmartin

· #2 · Jun 15, 2001

Hi, I can relate! Last year I took my family on a vacation to the western carribean. I filmed it with a digital recorder then decided to show it to some friends one night. My dila was in top form, but I just could not keep my eyes on what I thought was beautiful. I really got naseous as well as my frinds. Seems its better to see home videos on smaller screens.

Jaime

El Pollo

· #3 · Jun 15, 2001

Yeah, I used to get it. Probably would again since I haven't played those games in a while and my tolerance level is probably gone now. It happens to a lot of people.

A few things I've noticed. It could be a number of a zillion factors. I think less than total immersion is the biggest factor for those whom are susceptible to this kind of sickness. The screen may not refresh fast enough, you're playing from a first person perspective but sound doesn't quite surround you, the screen bobbles up and down too much, there's distortion on the edges of the screen when you pan (old Shogo Lithtech engine), you can control your character to look back and forth and move all around real quickly but in real life you can't do that, etc. LCD computer monitors are bad too compared to CRT ones in making people nauseaus. The key is to have the best hardware to run the game on, if you're susceptible. Obviously, this can't be controlled in a console environment, since they're black boxes.

Anyway, 3D engines are a major factor too I've found. Quake 2, Lithtech, Tomb Raider, Unreal, Ultima 9, those engines made me sick. For some reason, the Quake 3 engine didn't. Ginger ale may work, but I have a feeling it's a placebo for me. Playing on a full stomach works. But I think the best thing, if you absolutely must play a game that gets you dizzy, are sea-bands. Some women use them during pregnancy, and many people put them on when going on a ship. They go on your wrists and put pressure in between a couple of tendons. You can get them at a drug store.

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PapaSloth

· #4 · Jun 15, 2001

This is also very common for people who use VR goggles. What's going on is that your brain is having a hard time matching changes in your visual field (the screen) to changes in your middle ear (your head's tilt/yaw).

Over time, with exposure, your brain will learn to handle the input appropriately. This is exactly the same as if you were to, say, take a cruise and be seasick for the first couple of days. If you're willing to put up with it for a while, it will most like go away. On the other hand, being physically ill for some unknown period of time sounds like a high price to pay for playing video games on a big screen http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif . I suppose you could take dramamine while your brain is calibrating...

Good luck!

-Sloth

dcarl

· #5 · Jun 15, 2001

I was using a microfilm viewer for an extended amount of time in a library and it made me really sea/carsick. One of the people there recommended Dramamine. The next time I tried it, it worked really well.

-Dave

Dave T

· #6 · Jun 15, 2001

I was going to post about my similar experiences after setting up my D-ILA a few weeks back, but I never did.

I was trying to play Myst III on the big screen, and nearly booted. I found that it was a lot better if I didn't try to exand it to fill the screen, but run it in a 640x480 window (the native resolution of the game). That's still about 3 feet across on my screen. I agree that fast motion does it, and if the graphics aren't perfect, that makes it even worse. We do have some of those sea-bands for our boat, maybe I should try those. They work by giving you little shocks in your wrist. Not too pleasant, but better than being sea-sick!

My wife (who's pregnant) still complains about motion sickness when watching movies on the screen. Fortunately, I don't get that! But, it makes for some lonely movie watching.

- Dave

Dean McManis

· #7 · Jun 15, 2001

My wife says that she gets sick when I show the car chase scene from Bullitt (which I have no problem with).

But I do get sick with Quake-type games on a large PC monitor, and with many racing games including Crazy Taxi and Star Wars Pod Racer on the big screen/G15.

I usually just pause the game and close my eyes until it passes. Some days the problem is worse than others.

I haven't tried any patches or pills to help. I usually just do something else and play another day, or endure it for the length of the game.

The hard part is that it looks great blown up big and the immersiveness is addictive.

-Dean.

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Cameron

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 15, 2001

Thanks for the suggestions. I don't think that I want to have to drug myself up to play a video game, but maybe I can try out the Sea-band thingy.

Cameron

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KBK

· #9 · Jun 16, 2001

There is only one thing worse than the nausea of playing games on the big screen, and that's watching someone else play games on the big screen. I'm pretty well inmmune to the effects, but watching someone else play, well... I'm good for about 5 minutes.

Try the Doom 'Legacy' version (quake engine rendering quality), and that with a bubbled 180 degree field of view. Man, that's just too tough.

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mfrizzz

· #10 · Jun 16, 2001

Cameron,

I am so happy you made this post!!!!!

After building my dream house and my dream theater, where I can do serious computer gaming on a 10 foot wide screen, I was depressed because I thought I had brain damage...I've made two trips to the doctor to try and figure out why I get dizzy while chasing the Borg in Elite Force...The Doc said I passed all the tests and just shrugged his shoulders convinced I was nuts. Well of course I am nuts for spending my spare time gaming, when people my age (46) are supposed to be engaged in other more serious ventures. But at least I ain't sick-sick...If the room spins a little, and I get a belly ache keeping Laura Croft out of trouble so be it...It's worth it; Laura on a 10 foot screen is the bomb...

cheers,

mike

Cain

· #11 · Jun 16, 2001

I thought DILA's get a sort of image burn-in from static images, and computer gaming was a "no-no"..

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KBK

· #12 · Jun 17, 2001

There was a thread where I asked such a question, for a friend who wanted such SPECIFICALLY for flight simulators. I told him that CRT was out.. and I would check on the rest. It turns out that DILA's CAN be damaged.. but it really takes time, and the damage is minimal, but pernmanent. This came from someone who was using them in flight simulators for jet fighter cockpits, in a military enviroment. They get used ALL DAY, doing the same image. And there, it was noticable, but not that bad. So, if you are doing intermittent gaming on your DILA, I seriously doubt that you will ever have a problem.

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mfrizzz

· #13 · Jun 17, 2001

JVC techs told me that it is a image memory problem and not burn in in the traditional "crt" fashion...they advised me to turn off the projector and unplug it and the memory will reset...the quick fix has worked every time...if the image doesn't go away, all is not lost...there is a part they can replace to fix it...

mike

Dean McManis

· #14 · Jun 17, 2001

I'm guessing that this "burn-in" has to be under some extreme usage like a 24 hour flight simulator or video game paused for hours with a high contrast scene.

I've had two D-ILA FPTVs without the slightest hint of any burn-in like issues ever, and I have readily played games on both units with zero problems.

-Dean.

Cameron

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jun 18, 2001

I have now played quite a few games as well as had the windows desktop on for hours at a time at this point and there has never been any sign of burn-in. I have seen some people post in the past of times that somebody hit pause on a DVD and forgot about it until the next morning. They said that they had some slight burn in, but it went away after a couple of movies. BTW the projector was a DILA.

Cameron

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