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This may exist somewhere online already (please provide a link if it does), but I think a lot of users in this forum would be interested in some type of clearly laid out media player comparison grid. Maybe a Sticky thread with an Excel spreadsheet link.


It seems these players are coming out regularly now so an updated go-to resource would be very helpful.
 

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Some of the newer/announced .MKV / H.264 / 1080P capable dedicated media-players available in North America:

UnitHard Drive BayHard Drive InstalledPrices From (U.S.)LANWiFiBT ClientChipset
MykaYes - 2.5"Yes - 250GB199100Optional NYesSigma 8635
XtreamerYes - 2.5"No131100Optional NNoRealtek 1283
WDTVNoN/A99NoneNoneNoSigma 8635
Mvix UltioYes - 3.5"No169100NoneYesRealtek 1073
Dune HD Base 2.0Yes - 3.5"No449100 / OPT 1000Optional NYesSigma 8634
A.C. Ryan PlayOn!HDYes - 3.5"No169100Optional NYesRealtek 1073
ASUS O!Play HDP-R1NoN/A100NoneNoRealtek 1073
Popcorn Hour C200Yes - 2.5"/3.5"No2991000Optional NYesSigma 8643
Tvix M-6500AYesNo4191000Optional GNoSigma 8635
Tvix M-7000AYesNo5831000Optional GNoSigma 8635
Netgear EVA 9150YesYes - 500GB399100802.11nNoSigma 8635
LaCie LaCinema Black PLAYYesYes - 500GB459100802.11nYes
LaCie LaCinema Rugged HDN/AYes - 500GB349NoneNoneNo
MediaGate M2TVNoN/A109NoneNoneNoRealtek
MediaGate MG800HDYesNo284100802.11nYesSigma 8635
EGreat EG-M34ANoNo159100Optional NYesSigma 8635
EGreat EG-M31CYesNo199100Optional NYesSigma 8635
SageTV HD200NoN/A199100NoneNoSigma 8635
HDX 1000Yes - 2.5"/3.5"N/A219100NoneYesSigma 8635
QNAP NMP-1000Yes - 3.5"No100Optional NYesSigma 8635
Olevia ZP-500NoN/A177100Optional NNoSigma
Brando HD Media PlayerYesNo199NoneNoneNo
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Myka
Xtreamer
WDTV
Mvix Ultio
Dune HD Base 2.0
A.C. Ryan Play!OnHD
ASUS O!Play HDP-R1
Popcorn Hour C200
Tvix M-6500A
Tvix M-7000A
Netgear EVA 9150
LaCie LaCinema Black PLAY
Lacie LaCinema Rugged HD
MediaGate M2TV
MediaGate MG800HD
EGreat EG-M34A
EGreat EG-M31C
SageTV HD200
HDX 1000
QNAP NMP-1000
Olevia ZP-500
Brando HD Media Player Docking Station
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Sigma
Realtek
 

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Great initiative


Could you add an additional column showing the SoC type the system is based on (Realtek RTD128x, Sigma6xxx ....)?


And also may be indicate last update date / sort on first column ?
 

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Add a column with all the containers then for each container have a sub column with video and audio codecs.. example: MKV (Container) (H.264) video Codec, (FLAC) audio codec.
 

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Originally Posted by stanglx /forum/post/16784756


Add a column with all the containers then for each container have a sub column with video and audio codecs.. example: MKV (Container) (H.264) video Codec, (FLAC) audio codec.

I started to make a matrix like this and that's why I scraped it, the category, and sub-categories, as well as addendums, and notations would take forever, and with all the different types of media, and encodes the list would automatically be real world faulty as encode specs are not standardized.
 

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Great initiative


Could you add an additional column showing the SoC type the system is based on (Realtek RTD128x, Sigma6xxx ....)?

+1


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I would add the Netgear EVA 9150, expensive but definitely competitive with the others cited in terms of hardware and software.


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Then the true value is not going to be realized then. There are only a handful of containers.. and each container has a finite number of video and audio codecs... if your not showing what codecs/containers are supported then how will you differentiate between the players other then their processor which as I can see based on the new units coming out doesn't really provide any distinction as they are all doing their own thing and there is no standard container/codec support based on the processor used. The columns are very (Wifi, etc.) nice but honestly are much lower priorities for most - support of their movies is the key differentiator.


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I started to make a matrix like this and that's why I scraped it, the category, and sub-categories, as well as addendums, and notations would take forever, and with all the different types of media, and encodes the list would automatically be real world faulty as encode specs are not standardized.
 

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Tvix 6500 and Tvix 7000 can do lan 10/100 and 1000. They say Cat 6 cable to do it, but I have had no issues with Cat 5.
 

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There are only a handful of containers.. and each container has a finite number of video and audio codecs...

Yes, but a handful of containers times a handful of video codecs times a handful of audio codecs times a handful of subtitle formats equals a whole lot of combinations. Considering that all of the streamers listed above can handle most of the codec / container combinations, it would make more sense (and take up far less space) to list what they don't do.


For instance, the Mvix Ultio can't handle multichannel FLAC, doesn't do DTS downmix, only has limited SSA/ASS sub support and has trouble with 1080p h.264 video with more than ~6 reframes.


It's much more compact to type that than to list the hundred or so combinations that it does play.
 

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Tvix 6500 and Tvix 7000 can do lan 10/100 and 1000. They say Cat 6 cable to do it, but I have had no issues with Cat 5.

...as discussed in the TViX 6500 and 7000 firmware release notes:

1000M(Giga) bit option in Network setting has been added.


You need CAT6 cable to connect M-6500A to Gigabit HUB.


We find high bit HD content plays fine with SMB connection when it stutters with 10/100 connection.


But it will play fine with NFS(Netshare or Linux PC) even with 10/100.


The result may vary depends on the LAN environment.


Even though we used Gigabit LAN chip, the performance is slightly better than 10/100.


So, we do not advertize M-6500A as Gigabit device.


You can check the LAN mode by the LED light on the LAN JACK.


10/100 : Green

Giga : Yellow
 

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Originally Posted by Civuck /forum/post/16795558


Added the new LaCie LaCinema Rugged HD and previous LaCie LaCinema PLAY boxes to the grid.

Nice thread!


I would add DTS Downmix "Yes/No"...
 

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Its not that bad actually...


Example

MKV - Video (H.264, VC1, MPEG2,) What else.. 2 - 5 more.. not too bad

MKV - Audio (DTS, AC3, FLAC, PCM) What else 2 - 5 more not too bad


You dont need to do the combination of video to audio as it doesnt matter. Its the container that dictates not the audio or video combination.


And with regards to containers.. keep it to the popular ones:

MPEG, M2TS, MKV, VOB, MP4, MOV, AVI - What else?? 2 - 5 more...


But I see your point.. try it out and lets see..

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Yes, but a handful of containers times a handful of video codecs times a handful of audio codecs times a handful of subtitle formats equals a whole lot of combinations. Considering that all of the streamers listed above can handle most of the codec / container combinations, it would make more sense (and take up far less space) to list what they don't do.


For instance, the Mvix Ultio can't handle multichannel FLAC, doesn't do DTS downmix, only has limited SSA/ASS sub support and has trouble with 1080p h.264 video with more than ~6 reframes.


It's much more compact to type that than to list the hundred or so combinations that it does play.
 

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You missed one:

UnitHard Drive BayHard Drive InstalledPrices From (U.S.)LANWiFiBT ClientChipset
Egreat M34ANoN/A145100Optional NOptional (requires SATA HD)Sigma 8635

Link: Egreat M34A
 
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