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Hi everybody,


I want to upgrade my faithfull Sanyo Z4 projector.


My 2 choices are :


1) Epson 8100

2) Epson 8500UB



I'm wondering if the difference between those 2 model worth 1000$ ?

(Because i'm in canada).


My projection screen has 82inch of diagonal.


Should i go with the 8500UB or the 8100 ?


Is there a BIG noticeable difference between those two ?



Thank in advance.



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I don't have an 8100 or an 8500UB, so I'm not speaking from experience. However, I did go from a Sanyo Z4 to an Epson 6100, so I think I can lend some useful comments.


First things first. The difference in going from a Z4 to the 6100 was HUGE! No question about it.


MUCH brighter...MUCH sharper...MUCH better contrast...MUCH better black levels...


So, regardless of which you choose, either the 8100 or the 8500 UB will blow you away compared to the Z4. Easily.


As to the difference between the 8100 and the 8500UB, I would guess that the $1000 difference would be justified for a number of reasons:


1: The 8500UB has inorganic LCD panels, where the 8100 does not. This may or may not be a deal breaker, but it seems to me that the inorganic panels do give a certain amount of confidence in their long term reliability.


2: The 8500UB panels are 120hz, the 8100's are not.


3: The 8500UB have frame interpolation, the 8100 doesn't.


4: The 8500UB has much higher contrast ratio than the 8500UB, particularly, the 8500UB is capable of much better and lower black levels. I know that the 6100 has much better black levels than the Z4. I can imagine that the 8500 would have even better black levels still.


Based on my experience and everything I've read, I would say this. Is the 8500UB worth the extra $1000? Yes. If you saved the $1000 and went with the 8100, would you still be satisfied? Yes.
 

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Originally Posted by Kilgore /forum/post/18136586


I don't have an 8100 or an 8500UB, so I'm not speaking from experience. However, I did go from a Sanyo Z4 to an Epson 6100, so I think I can lend some useful comments.


First things first. The difference in going from a Z4 to the 6100 was HUGE! No question about it.


MUCH brighter...MUCH sharper...MUCH better contrast...MUCH better black levels...


So, regardless of which you choose, either the 8100 or the 8500 UB will blow you away compared to the Z4. Easily.


As to the difference between the 8100 and the 8500UB, I would guess that the $1000 difference would be justified for a number of reasons:


1: The 8500UB has inorganic LCD panels, where the 8100 does not. This may or may not be a deal breaker, but it seems to me that the inorganic panels do give a certain amount of confidence in their long term reliability.


2: The 8500UB panels are 120hz, the 8100's are not.


3: The 8500UB have frame interpolation, the 8100 doesn't.


4: The 8500UB has much higher contrast ratio than the 8500UB, particularly, the 8500UB is capable of much better and lower black levels. I know that the 6100 has much better black levels than the Z4. I can imagine that the 8500 would have even better black levels still.


Based on my experience and everything I've read, I would say this. Is the 8500UB worth the extra $1000? Yes. If you saved the $1000 and went with the 8100, would you still be satisfied? Yes.

Hi Kilgore,


Thanks you for your help I really appreciate :)



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I upgraded from my Z4 to a 6500 in November the Z4 was a fantastic projector, I had put almost 6000 hrs on it and gone through 2 lamps. As far as a comparison goes the 6500 is much much brighter and has a lot better black levels, but as far as sharpness especially on HD tv content at 720P the Z4 was really hard to beat and almost zero digital noise.

It made me realize how good that sanyo really was.


However, I do really appreciate the black levels and the brightness on the 6500, and blu-rays look fantastic although I turn the iris off due to the noise of it closing down the Z4 never made any iris noises, but it did suffer from video pump. I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade to the 8500 if you do quite a bit of dark room viewing, but if you don't have much for light control don't spend the extra money on it.


I thought about waiting for the 8500 but I got a great deal on a close out of the 6500 in November, and I really don't care about frame interpolation. I'd like to compare the 6500 and the 8500 side by side for black levels to see what 75,000:1 vs 200,000:1 really gets you.


Also, I haven't seen the AE4000 I wouldn't cross that off my list if I were you. I would try to get to see it somewhere if possible, I never got a chance.
 

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Originally Posted by broilr /forum/post/18141982


I'd like to compare the 6500 and the 8500 side by side for black levels to see what 75,000:1 vs 200,000:1 really gets you.

The difference is very subtle and not noticeable in normal viewing.
 
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