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Hi Guys,

I am replacing an older Pioneer 50 Inch and I know it is last call on all the plasmas. I have the opportunity to buy a store demo 64 inch F8500 for $1900. It has been on the wall running for two years. It comes with remote and is in fine physical shape.

I also have the chance to buy a new/near new 64 inch H5000 for around $1300.

My seating distance is 11 feet or so. I watch movies and TV, no gaming.

Priority for me is best picture quality. My room has some light during the day, but I can darken it easily if needed and at night I can darken it completely and night time watching is my highest priority.

Any thoughts or feedback would be appreciated. My main concern is with the bulb life on the 8500. Any thoughts or feedback on this?

And for the record, I do not need a ton of features, 3D, etc.

It would be useful if in your feedback, you told me if you own one of the two choices that I am considering.

Thanks in advance for your feedback!
 

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Hi Guys,

I am replacing an older Pioneer 50 Inch and I know it is last call on all the plasmas. I have the opportunity to buy a store demo 64 inch F8500 for $1900. It has been on the wall running for two years. It comes with remote and is in fine physical shape.

I also have the chance to buy a new/near new 64 inch H5000 for around $1300.

My seating distance is 11 feet or so. I watch movies and TV, no gaming.

Priority for me is best picture quality. My room has some light during the day, but I can darken it easily if needed and at night I can darken it completely and night time watching is my highest priority.

Any thoughts or feedback would be appreciated. My main concern is with the bulb life on the 8500. Any thoughts or feedback on this?

And for the record, I do not need a ton of features, 3D, etc.

It would be useful if in your feedback, you told me if you own one of the two choices that I am considering.

Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Check the hours on the F8500. Ask for the large remote, then with tv on hit mute 7 3 7 enter. MRT number is hours. Power off to get out of menu. If it has over 1000 hours, it likely has been running quite a bit at the store and may have some burn in issues if they had in on ESPN with their logo on all the time. Plus if it has over 1000 hours, it pretty much a used tv, and would not offer more than what they are asking for a new H5000. Sitting 11 feet away, you will likely not notice the pentile display of the H5000. Now if the F8500, has no burn in, and very few hours, less than 500, and you can get it for $1500, I would get that one. Great for bright rooms, excellent at night. Don't worry about the life of these tv's. Plasma half life is around 100,000 hours. Only an issue if you keep it for 20 years.
 

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Check the hours on the F8500. Ask for the large remote, then with tv on hit mute 7 3 7 enter. MRT number is hours. Power off to get out of menu. If it has over 1000 hours, it likely has been running quite a bit at the store and may have some burn in issues if they had in on ESPN with their logo on all the time. Plus if it has over 1000 hours, it pretty much a used tv, and would not offer more than what they are asking for a new H5000. Sitting 11 feet away, you will likely not notice the pentile display of the H5000. Now if the F8500, has no burn in, and very few hours, less than 500, and you can get it for $1500, I would get that one. Great for bright rooms, excellent at night. Don't worry about the life of these tv's. Plasma half life is around 100,000 hours. Only an issue if you keep it for 20 years.
I think you missed the part where he said it's been on the wall running at the store for 2 years. No doubt it's WELL over 1000 hours. :D

But I would still go for the F8500 because of course it's much better and more capable than the H5000, plus since it was hanging on the wall and not fondled by customers nor was it a customer return it should be in very good shape. But you're right, it's important to make sure there's no burn in, which can happen on store demos from running the same blu ray demo over and over.
 

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I get the whole thing about supply and demand driving up prices on plasmas but I think it's crazy to overpay on something with this much usage. Treating technology as an investment only works when you're the seller. It's not a Picasso, please don't pay $2k for a TV that's been a 2 year old store display. IMO, the H5000 is the better buy here.
 
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