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Using a subwoofer pre-out for sub-amp.

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I have a Audiosource amp210 powering speakers throughout our home (kitchen, dinning, office, outside and garage) via a an 8 channel selector. I set it up maybe 15 years but it still sounds amazing. I just have a bluetooth adapter running into the line in and then we typically just use our phones/ipad to stream music to it.

Anyways, my wife wants to overtake the closet that houses this equipment so I was thinking about what I can easily do to keep that same whole house set up but take advantage of some of the things I love about our AVR.

I was originally thinking I could just hook up the amp to our receiver via the pre-out connection and be down with it (minus having to move around the equipment ). But I realized my AVI down not have a Pre out. I have a Denon AVR-S740H. When I purchased it I was aware there was no pre-out but of course figured I would never need one. It does however have two sub-outs and I am currently only using one of them. I was thinking I could just use the second sub connection for the amp. I have not tried this yet, but is there any reason this would not work or if it would work, whether there is any reason I should not do this?
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It wont give a full range signal only up to about 120/150hz
It wont give a full range signal only up to about 120/150hz
Really? I thought that both subwoofer pre-out od and the other non-sub pre-out (which my receiver does not have) all receive the same signal that is generated for all of the channels and the pre-outs (whether sub or surrround). I assume I am totally wrong?
Really? I thought that both subwoofer pre-out od and the other non-sub pre-out (which my receiver does not have) all receive the same signal that is generated for all of the channels and the pre-outs (whether sub or surrround). I assume I am totally wrong?


They dont, AVRs only send the LFE track and bass below the crossover frequencies when speakers set to small to the sub (LFE) output. The LFE track can theoretically be full range but AVRs have a filter to remove sound above 120hz usually, it can sometimes be set higher like 150hz but LFE tracks dont really contain much if anything at 120hz even so the setting is generally just left at the default 120hz


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good nes/ bad news:

Good news - you can do it with your current set up, with some caveats and/or ...

bad news ( maybe not bad) replace / change out the receiver.

one option: get a HEOS link pre-amp ( 349 new, but you can find used via ebay ~200 maybe a little less) for the outbound stuff.

another option: upgrade the main receiver to a model with zone 2 pre-outs...but that leaves you with an extra unit( easily sold via CL/Ebay)

cost-wise, since you are happy with your current receiver, adding a second, equivalent, is probably cheaper than replacing with a model with zone 2 pre-outs...

or you could go crazy and get a HEOS super drive!

good luck!
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good nes/ bad news:

Good news - you can do it with your current set up, with some caveats and/or ...

bad news ( maybe not bad) replace / change out the receiver.

one option: get a HEOS link pre-amp ( 349 new, but you can find used via ebay ~200 maybe a little less) for the outbound stuff.

another option: upgrade the main receiver to a model with zone 2 pre-outs...but that leaves you with an extra unit( easily sold via CL/Ebay)

cost-wise, since you are happy with your current receiver, adding a second, equivalent, is probably cheaper than replacing with a model with zone 2 pre-outs...

or you could go crazy and get a HEOS super drive!

good luck!
I briefly looked at the HEOS link pre-amp and the one thing I did not like was it did not look like I could easily run my current switch to that controls wired speakers throughout the house. Maybe it can (Honestly, I just took a look at the rear panel and assumed that I could not). Granted a new switch is pretty cheap but if I needed to purchase the HEOS and a switch, I may as well just go through the hassle of selling the current AVR and upgrading one w/ zone 2 pre-outs. The current ARV does allow me to run a second zone through the surround back speaker terminals, but then I lose the back speakers in the family room, which we would likely miss. A different AVR would also give us the ability to play zone 1 (which would be the family room) along with the rest of the home (which would be zone 2) at the same time if desired. It would also allow us to control everything from one access point (which we currently cannot do an is something that drives my wife crazy).

One nice thing about the HEOS is the ability to add on wireless speakers in the future, but honestly we have little need for wireless with the whole house being wired.

Anything thing I could possibly do is just go with the HEOS, run that directly to the AVR, and then run the current amp into the HEOS. It does look like you can get used HEOS link pre-amps at a pretty decent price.
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I briefly looked at the HEOS link pre-amp and the one thing I did not like was it did not look like I could easily run my current switch to that controls wired speakers throughout the house.
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the HEOS preamp will run the AMP210... you will then have 2 "HEOS" devices: main zone and all the other zones (HEOS PRE-AMP > AMP210> speaker selector)
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