Just noticed on Walmart website that they now list the Venturer player as clearance, meaning they probably are going to stop stocking this player. I remember all the build up and excitement about a "cheap, affordable player for the masses" that this player was going to be to bring HD DVD to the top with the average consumer. I guess it all makes perfect sense though, with the Warner announcement and Toshiba taking the approach of drastically reducing the prices on the Gen 3 players, the Venturer isn't quite the low price solution anymore, since it is essentially a non-Toshiba A3 (why buy a Venturer A3 for 199 when you can get an Toshiba A3 for 129?). Kinda makes me feel like Venturer was in the wrong place at the wrong time.