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VIDEO: Sony Tells (Almost) All About Their 3D PlayStation 3 Firmware Upgrade
VIDEO: Sony Tells (Almost) All About Their 3D PlayStation 3 Firmware Upgrade
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Yeah, that's the famous one that made everybody with a supposedly "3D Ready" hdtv with hdmi 1.3 cry. At the very end of the video, he (Don Mesa), basically says they are starting with hdmi 1.4, and aren't going to support hdmi 1.3 whatsoever. Also, they are using the Frame Sequential format, not Checkerboard. Sucks for me, as a Samsung PN50A450 owner.
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2 min, 10 sec is where he begins to discc Full HD per eye from the PS3 . This video was shot about two weeks ago.
2 min, 10 sec is where he begins to discc Full HD per eye from the PS3 . This video was shot about two weeks ago.
So I'm not capable of understanding high-level tech talk, but it seems like sony is not ruling-out use of the PS3 with HDMI 1.3 tvs. Is the second video saying that basically the 3d video will be sent out via HDMI 1.3 at a 1.4 bandwidth, but the audio and other features will not? If so, we could get 1080p to both eyes.
This leaves hope for DLP checkerboard owners who have HDMI 1.3 tvs. In my case, I don't have an audio receiver with HDMI pass-thru anyway, so all audio is passed via toslink. And I don't recall sony anywhere actually saying the upgrade wouldn't include checkerboard support. It certainly seems they would have some economic incentive to make it apply to more than one format (there is at least one potential PS3 buyer waiting to see if his TV would be supported). And I would guess for the next year or so, there will be more checkerboard owners than other format.
This leaves hope for DLP checkerboard owners who have HDMI 1.3 tvs. In my case, I don't have an audio receiver with HDMI pass-thru anyway, so all audio is passed via toslink. And I don't recall sony anywhere actually saying the upgrade wouldn't include checkerboard support. It certainly seems they would have some economic incentive to make it apply to more than one format (there is at least one potential PS3 buyer waiting to see if his TV would be supported). And I would guess for the next year or so, there will be more checkerboard owners than other format.
incentive for Sony to support checkerboard on PS3 = possibility that PS3 can do checkerboard at all X [(potential PS3 buyers with old 3D-ready DLPs X $299) - (potential Sony 3DTV buyers ready to replace old 3D-ready Mitsubishi or Samsung DLPs if necessary X $3200 approx)]
incentive for Sony to support checkerboard on PS3 = possibility that PS3 can do checkerboard at all X [(potential PS3 buyers with old 3D-ready DLPs X $299) - (potential Sony 3DTV buyers ready to replace old 3D-ready Mitsubishi or Samsung DLPs if necessary X $3200 approx)]
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All you need is the Mits 3DC-1000 3D format converter. Will be available in a couple of months.
All you need is the Mits 3DC-1000 3D format converter. Will be available in a couple of months.
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The PS3 already supports checkerboard output for stereoscopic games like Avatar. I wouldn't think it would be very difficult to do the same with movies.
Here's a link for some relatively cheap glasses.
http://www.3dflightsim.com/product/avatar_2.htm
Here's a link for some relatively cheap glasses.
http://www.3dflightsim.com/product/avatar_2.htm
I'm mainly interested whether, in theory, a PS3 could send 3-d over 1.3 HDMI to my DLP. Now whether they would be so altruistic as to include checkerboard is another matter.
I doubt many current DLP owners would shell over another $3000 for a sony tv, when a $100 adapter would be sufficient. And sony should be interested in being compatible with all 3-d sets. If the whole PS3 situation was an attempt to increase sony TV sales they probably wouldn't have made PS3's compatible with other brands to begin with.
I'm curious, does anyone know how this $100 adapter will work? Will it be connected betweent he HDMI source and my TV? If so, would i have to switch inputs when I go from cable to Blu-ray, or purchase an adapter for each HDMI input?
I doubt many current DLP owners would shell over another $3000 for a sony tv, when a $100 adapter would be sufficient. And sony should be interested in being compatible with all 3-d sets. If the whole PS3 situation was an attempt to increase sony TV sales they probably wouldn't have made PS3's compatible with other brands to begin with.
I'm curious, does anyone know how this $100 adapter will work? Will it be connected betweent he HDMI source and my TV? If so, would i have to switch inputs when I go from cable to Blu-ray, or purchase an adapter for each HDMI input?
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I'll be keeping my eye on Octava to produce an HDMI 1.4 matrix switcher. I have their HDMI 1.3a 4x4 matrix switcher, and it's a thing of beauty. Any 4 inputs to any or all 4 displays simultaneously. Great design and ultra cheap price, especially compared to the "big boys" like Geffen. Octava products just plain work.
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Interesting product they sell:
4 x 2 HDMI Matrix Amp with 7.1 Audio Routing
Interesting product they sell:
4 x 2 HDMI Matrix Amp with 7.1 Audio Routing
http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI%20swit..._7_1audio.html
Since one of the announcec benefits of the DLP adapter is that it supports different 3D input formats. I do not beleive the rumor that it will have only one HDMI input. I expect at least two, one for Blu-Ray player and one for a Cable or Satellite STB and possibly a third for PC game input.
Since one of the announcec benefits of the DLP adapter is that it supports different 3D input formats. I do not beleive the rumor that it will have only one HDMI input. I expect at least two, one for Blu-Ray player and one for a Cable or Satellite STB and possibly a third for PC game input.
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Here is the original press release from Mits on the 3DC-1000:
Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America Brings 3D to Life at “Experience 3D Tech Zone” at CES
New 3D Adapter Will Enable Cross-Platform Compatibility for 3D Content
EDIT: I just sent an Email asking how many inputs the 3DC-1000 will have and to verify that it will handle the S-b-S 1080i 3D format. May not hear back until next week as the person who could help me is at a conference and is not expected to return to the office today.
Here is the original press release from Mits on the 3DC-1000:
Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America Brings 3D to Life at “Experience 3D Tech Zone” at CES
New 3D Adapter Will Enable Cross-Platform Compatibility for 3D Content
EDIT: I just sent an Email asking how many inputs the 3DC-1000 will have and to verify that it will handle the S-b-S 1080i 3D format. May not hear back until next week as the person who could help me is at a conference and is not expected to return to the office today.
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Well I was wrong on that one, so regretfully users wiill have to use a switch in order to support different 3D inport sources.
If you write them back in would be nice to know if they see no problem receiving 3D content from STBs receiving sporting events broadcast in 720p 3D by cable channels such as ESPN-3D.
If you write them back in would be nice to know if they see no problem receiving 3D content from STBs receiving sporting events broadcast in 720p 3D by cable channels such as ESPN-3D.
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I sent another Email. let's leave this thread for the PS3 upgrade topic.
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I sent another Email. let's leave this thread for the PS3 upgrade topic.
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I believe it says that either a 3D BD player will output a compatible checkerboard 3D format which DLP RPTV's can use, or it will output a non- compatible 3D format (like frame packed) which is not compatible to DLP RPTVs and the adapter will be required.
AFAIK, there is only one kind of Checkerboard 3D format. Just one of many 3D formats like:
Frame Sequential
Line-by-Line
Side-by-Side
Over/Under
Checkerboard
Etc.
I believe it says that either a 3D BD player will output a compatible checkerboard 3D format which DLP RPTV's can use, or it will output a non- compatible 3D format (like frame packed) which is not compatible to DLP RPTVs and the adapter will be required.
AFAIK, there is only one kind of Checkerboard 3D format. Just one of many 3D formats like:
Frame Sequential
Line-by-Line
Side-by-Side
Over/Under
Checkerboard
Etc.
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June/July for the upgrade and yes to the 7000 question
June/July for the upgrade and yes to the 7000 question
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