[susan7566]

Ok....this guy is selling expensive power cords in the CRT section of Videogon.

http://avsf.videogon.com/cgi-bin/buy...rta&1089695097


Any opinions on this? Will it improve your picture or extend the life of your power supply?


I mean anyone could make one of these....he pretty much tells you the parts in his listing. Would it be worth it....or is this just a snake-oil salesman?

 

[fs123]

Not sure but they will look pretty coming out of the outlet and into your pj.

 

[SondekLP12]

I have several of his cables for my audio components and my projector, and I like them. Very well made and terminated. I had him custom terminate my cords at the outlet ends each with down angle plugs. He didn't mind it a bit with a special order and finished them for a 2 day turnaround time (ordered on a Wednesday and got them on that Friday). I was looking for a robust construction in my cables, but not expecting them to make up for the 400 feet of cheap Romex wire that runs through my house. If the current is messed up at the outlet end, no expensive cable is going to get you what is already lost at the beginning of the chain. The only thing you can hope for is that the cable is made strong and of better quality copper and shielding material than the nickel clad rough pitch copper crap that comes with our audio and video components.

 

[PiDD]

I would love to see some hard facts for these before I purchased one.

 

[MC Maniac]

Thanks for the link Susan..


They are cheap enough that they are worth trying out..I have ordered a pair of em..


For audio, I'm not a big believer in exotic cables, but for video these things do make a difference..this got reinforced again when I recently bought some RGBHV cables from Paul (Gn2)....you can see the improvement over cheap cables instantly..


I'll post again when I try em out..

 

[draganm]

I have bought cables from him before like compenent video and audio and it has always been very high quality stuff that was delivered promptly and an excellent value. I didn't know he was making power cords when I built my own heavy duty 20 footer for my M8500 a few months ago. It cost me $50. in parts alone and I had to put it together which wasn't a big deal but it dosen't look as good as that one. I think $69.00 for a nice looking power cord with braided shielding is a no-brainer. It's not snake oil, just good cabling.

 

[stylinlp]

I for one uses Signal Cables in my system. I have a pair of interconnects, coax spdf interconnect, and a 10' AC power cord.

I beleive this guy got going because of the Jon Risch diy design which is the most highly reguarded.

You can not buy a 10' ac power cord for $70 anywhere. I know, I looked.

Well, later I did find that Monster Cable does sell one for $20. But its molded plastic and much thinner gauge. The jacket coating isn't as good either. But must admit its miles ahead of regular computer ac cables.

 

[Curt Palme]

It's one thing to use a good quality cable wheter it's AC, speaker or signal.


It's completely another to actually figure out whether you see or hear a difference at all.


And that's not knocking this guy's power cords. I don't think you'll see a difference between a 16 and 14 gauge cord. The line loss between the two in 6' or even 10' of line is so minute..


But I have to say we're a very controlled group right now. I remember about 18 months or so ago when someone posted a link to an $800.00 power cord, we were all over that one, the posts got pretty wild..


Curt

 

[stylinlp]

True Curt.

Lets look at it this way. *"Dont!*" use a regular computer ac power cord.

There. It was said. hehe

 

[draganm]

Quote:

Lets look at it this way. *"Dont!*" use a regular computer ac power cord.

a "regular computer AC power cord" is 18 gauge and NOT suitable for a device that's drawing 5amps or more, especially in distances of 10 feet or greater. Computer power cords are garbage, but they're OK for your computer. The stock power cords that came with my Matquee's are 16 gauge, this should be considered a minimum and I would go to at least 14 gauge for a 20 foot run.

 

[techman707]

Now I've seen everything!!! A #16 guage power cord should be no longer than 6 feet, if your outlet is more than that from your projector, you need an electrician, not a fancy power cord.


I guess what they say is true....there's an ass for every seat.

 

[draganm]

Actually you don't "need" an electrician, figuring out hot, nuetral, and ground isn't rocket science, it's tearing up dry-wall and making a mess in your finished room that's a *****. Running a 15 foot 14 gauge extension cable through surface mount wire-track is OK, might not be ideal but it won't catch your house on fire.

 

[techman707]

Quote:

Originally posted by draganm Actually you don't "need" an electrician, figuring out hot, nuetral, and ground isn't rocket science, it's tearing up dry-wall and making a mess in your finished room that's a *****. Running a 15 foot 14 gauge extension cable through surface mount wire-track is OK, might not be ideal but it won't catch your house on fire.

I was just trying to be polite. However, if you're using an extension cord, you should really use #12 wire, which is the code today for outlets, #14 has just about become obsolete for wiring houses today. The most important thing no matter what size wire you're using, is to make sure that it's properly grounded. If you want to be redundant, you could even add MOV's (metal oxide varistors) to ground from each wire if you're afraid of line spikes, but most good electronic equipment has it already.

 

[HV-MAN]

LOL....What a load of rubbish!!


I'm very sure this short power cable from the outlet to the PJ is not going to improve power quality let alone improve picture quailty.


I suppose it reduces harmonics and smooths as well.


Most interference is introduced way before your outlet or house for that matter a simple power cable not going to fix that.


Anyone saying they can see the difference needs to be smacked in the back of the head!


This has to be one of the top ten dumbest things I seen in my professional life as an electrician & Electrical Engineer.


Sales & marketing..... it's all about the name and as much hype and BS you can generate to confuse the unknowing into parting with their $$$.


THis can only be described as a projector fashion accessory.

 

[stylinlp]

HV-Man those are strange statements coming from an EE. But im not going to argue with you what a nice AC cord can do to a high end power amp, preamp, turntable, or even a lowely cd player.


The point is, don't use a 10+ foot low grade 20 gauge computer ac cable for your projector. How much you spend beyond that is a differant subject.

 

[HV-MAN]

As long as the cord is rated to carry the required load I fail to see how a flashy 1-2m appliance lead could make any difference to PQ.


Yep computer leads are a no..no...most often there under sized, I've seen the remains of someones attempt to use one on a hot water urn it, melted and smoked up.


CRT PJ's power demands are reasonably stable and don't vary to much.

It's not like having a large swinging load that is always switching on and off etc

 

[benny]

Quote:

Originally posted by susan7566 ....or is this just a snake-oil salesman?

I'm inclined to agree with the following articles.


Cheers


Russ

 

[techman707]

Quote:

Originally posted by stylinlp HV-Man those are strange statements coming from an EE. But im not going to argue with you what a nice AC cord can do to a high end power amp, preamp, turntable, or even a lowely cd player. The point is, don't use a 10+ foot low grade 20 gauge computer ac cable for your projector. How much you spend beyond that is a differant subject.

He's just telling the truth. This is NOT even as subjective as arguing over which speaker sounds better, this is just nonsense. However, anyone having some extra money they don't need should buy one for every piece of equipment that uses that type of connector so that all their cords will match.

 

[susan7566]

Hmmmm....so I ran a 20-ft piece of 14-gauge wire from a dedicated breaker to a standard wall outlet....and used the 8-ft cord (that came with my projector) from the outlet to the PJ (6pg).


I have no surge protection....but do unplug the projector if there is lightning around. What type of surge protection would be a minimum for this set-up?

 

[stylinlp]

Susan I'm worried about the same thing. If you do a search for Tripplitte on ebay they sell some wonderfull all metal cased power strips. I got one with 4 outlets for $20. They retail for $70. Industrial grade. Audiophile advise is never use a plastic power strip for and around your gear. Metal stops MRI.


One thing to consider. You say your using a 8' ac cord that came with your projector. Did it come with your projector from the factory or did you get that projector used and someone through a computer ac cord in with the sale. Factory is safe.


Question: I have a Marquee 8500 and the power supply fans are allways on. I can hear them running at low speeds and are quite loud in the middle of the night in a quiet house while the projector is turned off. The only way to turn the projector truely off is to unplug it from the wall. Another reason I was thinking of getting a powerstrip. So I can use it as a power switch.