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So I'm looking for a new fun project for a friend of mine who is currently running his vinyl collection through some very bad components. I brought up the idea of building something a little better and he bit.

Stylistically I know he likes the older vintage look...single box, 3 way design, mesh/fabric cover. I thought about doing Paul Carmody's Tarkus build but with 90 degree angles, but wonder if any of you have other recommendations. I'd like to keep component cost around $200, not including cabinet and finishing.

We will be running it through a 50WPC tube amp.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
 

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Do your friend a favor and set a base line of performance using REW to measure the speakers and the room
\then when you see what is missing,
you'll have a better idea of what you might do
 

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You might want to invest in some.
 
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While I appreciate the sentiment, it's not a super helpful comment.

I'll just go back to the drawing board on my own.
 

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Sorry you feel that way. Good luck with your project (y)
 

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Thanks for your response. I was planning on a fresh build with a new cabinet and all. I didn't want to pick drivers to fit an existing cabinet volume, etc. Some designs lend themselves for a more vintage look than others.

My builds in the past have been slightly more modern or geared towards home theater applications, so this will be a little different.
 

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Yeah basically! I may just need to pick a design to make and then do the cover to make it "vintage" ha ha
 

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Nice box, wood veneer or solid wood if you want to spend the money and then the cheesecloth. Next, blow people away with how great the vintage speakers sound.
 

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Will probably do veneer rather than solid wood just to minimize resonance in the cabinet. But yeah I like the "sleeper" look for him
 

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While I appreciate the sentiment, it's not a super helpful comment.

for only about max $125, you'll be able to begin with the end in mind . . .
 

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If you don't want to spend a lot of money, the Carmody Classix II has a bit of that "vintage" sound to it and produces decent bass. You can easily make those into a vintage look if you so desired (just buy the kit sans enclosure). 8 ohms too, so they won't kill an amp. There are several others like that as well. No need to re-invent the wheel unless you really want to.

Are you dead-set on a three-way speaker though?

And don't worry about measurements. This is for 2-channel vinyl with no sub, correct? If so, you'll be fine without them.
 

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Thanks! Good points.

Not dead set on a 3way setup. Just was thinking about something with a bit more oomph for a 2ch set up.

I modified the center channel of Carmody's swope HT design into a "bookshelf" 2ch set up for my home office and honestly they sound amazing. So that's my only experience with building a 3way 2ch solution. I've done a couple of other 2ways like the speedsters and the Helix Mats which were good but not quite as good as the modified swope design
 

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Do you have a budget? If you want to build an excellent 3-way there's always the Dennis Murphy BMR. It's expensive though.

But if it's just something fun that sounds good for vinyl for not a lot of money, I think you'd have a hard time beating something like the Classix II. The only thing is that speaker lacks a bit of detail, but unless they listen to a lot of audiophile Jazz/classical, they probably won't be bothered by it.
 

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Wow that's a pretty impressive design! More than we are planning for his build, but I'll keep it in the back of my mind!!!
 

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that "vintage" sound to it and produces decent bass . .
Empire turntable $200 -yikes
cartridge $100
records with "decent bass" ? dubiously
when I had 6 of the AR 2ax's and the 2 Dynaco 120's pounding away in a barracks room for 8 bodies, BERLIN USASAFSB
subwoofer? what's that?
there was that 30" paragon woofer
Remember the Lafayette Catalogs?
nobody could figure out what to do with . .
and 5 equalizer bands on my Citation 11 pre-amp-yeah- vintage
we don't need no stinking "Bass and Treble controls"- how antiquated is that?
plenty of lockers and beds and concrete walls . . .
room treatments- probably would have been pizza, beer and goodies for the munchies
50 years has brought a lot of improvements and the loss of some hearing . .
while there may be some things from the last century worth preserving
"vintage" sound ? you're not even in the same "vintage" room

wanna see something vintage? go look in the mirror.
also go look around in the 2 channel threads
 

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I am not sure what's got you all knotted up.

Not looking for vintage sound. Just thinking about aesthetics. Keeping it simple for a friend of mine.
 

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This is a weird thread. I guess if the question isn't DIY subwoofer related people don't seem to care?

And there's nothing wrong with vintage sound. The set of Marantz Imperial 6G's that I picked up recently still sound fantastic. In search for "ultimate accuracy" we seem to have lost some of the fun that once existed in audio.
 
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