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I am using the colormunki colorimeter. It appears to be accurate for greyscale measurements, but either this equipment is lousy on primary/secondary color measurement or this Vizio's color settings are pretty accurate without the need to use a colorimeter. That's why I suggest using only the gain/offset adjustments in the color tuner settings.

Brightness was adjusted using the DVE pluge pattern where the 4% below black bar just disappears. Contrast was reduced to a luminance of 39 ftL @ 100% white window to reduce eye strain in a dim viewing room. Gamma 2.4 setting was used to darken the picture a little while increasing definition. And, the color target was 8000K to keep the colors in the white space of the CIE graph. This creates a 3D effect.
 

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Final or Near Final Settings

Greetings Colleagues,

Herein are the final or near final settings for my Vizio E65-E1. I adjusted only the gains and offsets in the color tuner settings and left all other settings in that section to 0. Please note that tint was adjusted to 1 by using the (not abandoned) DVE color filters.

Input Settings: HDMI-1, Full UHD Color: Off

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 51
Contrast: 32
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 3

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Turn off all enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.4

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -48, Green 0, Blue 18
Offset: Red 1, Green 0, Blue 1
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.


Your colleague in picture quality,

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Colormunki is a decent entry-level colorimeter. Hopefully your settings will be of use to others because component tolerances can vary considerably from tv to tv. At least it's a place to start for those who choose not to learn how to calibrate, or even adjust their panels themselves.
 

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The UHD Settings

Greetings Colleagues,

Herein are the UHD settings for my Vizio E65-E1, which will work only on the HDMI-1 input setting. To turn on the UHD, go into the Input Settings for HDMI-1 and you should see the Full UHD Color Setting, and just turn that setting to On. I think that this setting provides a wider color spectrum. I made minor adjustments to the gain and offset settings in the color tuner settings. Changes below are in bold.

Input Settings: HDMI-1, Full UHD Color: On

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 51
Contrast: 32
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 3

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Turn off all enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.4

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -46, Green 0, Blue 9
Offset: Red -1, Green -1, Blue 0
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.


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The UHD Settings - Corrected

Greetings Colleagues,

The above initial settings for UHD were corrected to avoid black crush, which is the brightness setting too low. If your eyes were hurting while watching the tv with this brightness setting, this may be the reason why. Offsets were adjusted for consistent color temperature of 8000K between 0% and 50% Window patterns.

Please let me know if you want me to readjust the brightness setting for the August 20, 2018 posting. The brightness setting in that posting may be too low as well.

Input Settings: HDMI-1, Full UHD Color: On

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 52
Contrast: 32
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 3

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Turn off all enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.4

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -46, Green 0, Blue 9
Offset: Red -3, Green -2, Blue 0
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.


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The UHD Settings - Lighter Picture

Greetings Colleagues,

To lighten up the picture a bit, gamma setting was changed to 2.2, with a target luminance of 40.5 ftL @ 100% Field White pattern and color temperature @ 8000K. I felt that gamma 2.4 setting may be good for a dark viewing room, but too dark for me. Changes in bold. I think that the picture looks better.

Input Settings: HDMI-1, Full UHD Color: On

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 51
Contrast: 32
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 3

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Turn off all enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -46, Green -3, Blue 11
Offset: Red -4, Green -2, Blue -1
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.


Your colleague in picture quality,

The Vincentfam
 

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The UHD Settings - Higher RGB levels

Greetings Colleagues,

The RGB levels using HCFR software were increased, still targeting color temperature of 8000K. Blue level was adjusted to approximately 127% and Red was raised to 100%, which produced a color temperature of 8000K. (On the previous posting, Blue was at 120% and Red at 90%). I think the color looks better. Changes in Bold.

Input Settings: HDMI-1, Full UHD Color: On

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 51
Contrast: 32
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 3

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Turn off all enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -12, Green 0, Blue 35
Offset: Red -2, Green 0, Blue 1
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.


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I bought a 2017 Vizio M75-E1 last fall and put it in my barely used basement. I've started to actually do stuff with it in the last month and have noticed serious backlight and color inconsistencies that may or may not be normal, so I wanted to check with other owners or those familiar with these types of sets before I initiate any type of return or warranty repair. This TV is a LED backlit with multiple dimming zones (cannot remember how many, but not as many as the P-Series)

Symptoms :

1) Solid colors look terrible and are inconsistent across the entire screen
2) When there is a contrasting color, especially with motion, I see a halo or ghosting effect around it. For example, moving white lettering on a black background will have a halo surrounding it, and it's always fluctuating
3) I get a random flicker about once every 60 seconds that lasts for less than a second. More like a random flash or artifact. This happens on both native (TV built-in netflix) and external (HDR HDMI Input)

This thing was a nightmare to transport and get installed, so I keep hoping there's a software fix for this, but I wanted to check here to see if anyone was familiar with similar issues. I've never owned a local dimming LED set before (all plasma and edge lit before), so I'm not sure if the ghosting and backlight/color inconsistencies are just something that I need to live with. I purchased from Costco and have like another 5 years of coverage between the costco CC and squaretrade.
 

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Vizio Problems

Bigchingan,

I am not totally familiar with problems with the Vizio, as I am recently a former dedicated owner of plasma tvs. I did have one nagging picture problem that was resolved by unplugging the tv for two minutes to reset the tv. If you do this, make sure that you do a subsequent check for software updates. Also, although our models are different, you should have the option in the system settings to restore the default settings on the tv. You may want to do a system restore and also check for software updates afterwards. Another option is to switch out the hdmi cable to see that is the problem.

If these options do not work, thank goodness that you have a warranty. The next step will be to contact your warranty company, unless you can find another potential solution.

Good luck,

Vincentfam
 

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The Non UHD Settings - Higher RGB Levels

Greetings Colleagues,

Herein are my Non UHD settings, with an added adjustment to the Clear Action setting. The UHD settings appeared to be too saturated and these settings below appear to be more normal. Luminance @ 100% Window is 41.5 ftL. Changes in Bold.

Input Settings: HDMI-1, Full UHD Color: Off

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 32
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 3

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Clear Action: On
Turn off all other enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -12, Green 0, Blue 35
Offset: Red -2, Green 1, Blue 1
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.


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The Vincentfam
 

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The Non UHD Settings - Higher RGB Levels & Luminance

Greetings Colleagues,

Went into a local automotive store and noticed the nice looking bright picture. So I decided to increase the luminance to increase contrast ratio and thus picture quality. This is a brighter picture that may cause eye fatigue in a dark room viewing environment. Herein are the updated settings. Color Tuner settings were adjusted to level out the gamma curve, & sharpness setting also adjusted. Luminance of 50.5 ftL @ 100% window.

Input Settings: HDMI-1, Full UHD Color: Off

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 40
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 4

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Clear Action: On
Turn off all other enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -12, Green 0, Blue 37
Offset: Red 1, Green 3, Blue 3
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.


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The Vincentfam
 

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Luminance 60 ftL Better Day Time Settings

The Non UHD Settings - Higher RGB Levels & Luminance Day Time Settings

Greetings Colleagues,

This is a brighter picture that may be better viewing in day time environment. Herein are the updated settings. Color Tuner settings were adjusted to level out the gamma curve. Luminance of 60 ftL @ 100% window.

Input Settings: HDMI-1, Full UHD Color: Off

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 45
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 4

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Clear Action: On
Turn off all other enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -14, Green -2, Blue 35
Offset: Red 1, Green 3, Blue 3
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.


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Day Time Settings (Gamma Curve Adjusted)

Seasons Greetings Colleagues,

I attempted today to adjust the picture for better detail in dark scenes. I unsuccessfully attempted to use the black detail setting, but that threw gamma way off. So I adjusted the offset settings to lower the gamma curve between 0 and 50% grey scale patterns to mimic BT.1886 calibration to get more detail in dark scenes. (See gamma graph attached). I may have to adjust the offset settings a little more. Contrast setting was reduced to 44 to keep luminance at 60 ftL to avoid eye fatigue. I switched the input setting to HDMI-2 because HDMI-1 is used for a sonos sound bar.

Input Settings: HDMI-2,

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 44
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 2

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Clear Action: On
Turn off all other enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -14, Green -2, Blue 35
Offset: Red 9, Green 10, Blue 9
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.

Happy Holidays!
Your colleague in picture quality,

The Vincentfam
 

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Improved Picture Quality (Active Full Array Setting)

Greetings Colleagues:

I think that you will like these settings. Manipulated gamma curve a little more by adjusting offset settings. Sharpness setting raised to 3 using 720p sharpness pattern. Edit: Not recommending active full array: Turned on Active Full Array setting to improve contrast ratio. Raised contrast setting to 45 (Luminance increased to 62 ftL). Color temperature measured at 8000K in the white space of the CIE graph.

Input Settings: HDMI-2,

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 45
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 3

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Active Full Array: On This setting negatively impacts gamma curve - not recommended
Clear Action: On
Turn off all other enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.2

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -14, Green -2, Blue 35
Offset: Red 12, Green 12, Blue 11
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.

As always,
Your colleague in picture quality,

The Vincentfam
 

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Good Movie Viewing Settings - attached gamma graph

Greetings Colleagues:

Manipulated gamma curve a little more by adjusting the 11 point white balance settings. Changed gamma setting to 2.4 for movie viewing. Gamma curve is similar to BT.1886 measurement - See graph attached. Turned OFF Active Full Array setting because it negatively impacts gamma curve. Colors appear to be bolder.

Input Settings: HDMI-2,

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 100
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 45
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 3

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Active Full Array: OFF
Clear Action: On
Turn off all other enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.4

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -14, Green -2, Blue 35
Offset: Red 12, Green 12, Blue 11
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.

11 Point White Balance Settings:
Gain = 5%: Red: 15; Green: 15; Blue: 15
Gain = 10%: Red: 9; Green: 9; Blue: 9
Gain = 20%: Red: 8; Green: 8; Blue: 8
Gain = 30%: Red: 5; Green: 5; Blue: 5
All other settings = 0

As always,
Your colleague in picture quality,

The Vincentfam
 

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Thanks @TheVincentfam for sharing these calibration settings. Also quick questions. Do you have any recent calibrations for HDR? They dont seem to carry over well when watching content with HDR active


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The HDR Settings

Tbrooks330,

HDR adjustments do not appear to be complicated but may require additional equipment to complete this task. I will do some more research and perhaps take a trip to a local electronics store to purchase a few items for this. I will let you know soon.

As I am,
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The HDR Settings - Pending

During the time that it may take me to figure out HDR settings, I would recommend turning on the active full array setting. Although this setting may negatively impact gamma, it will nonetheless provide some "punch" to the picture, which I am anticipating will be similar to HDR settings.

As I am,
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Views on HDR Settings

Greetings Colleagues,

Per my limited investigation, HDR adjustments or calibrations are made to the particular tv but not to any type of standard. Usually, the adjustments are only made to contrast, brightness, sharpness, color and tint. Some professional calibrators may also use more complicated adjustments.

Any 4K adjustments to this tv require video source (blue ray player, xbox, etc) that can deliver a 4K signal to the tv, which I do not have and can be expensive. I do have an xbox1 console but it is not compatible with 4K tvs (xbox1x and xbox1s are compatible). If you do have an xbox1x or xbox1s console, these consoles have internal settings to show how to calibrate your 4K TV.

If, in the event that I would come across a 4K compatible video source, I will indeed look at 4K HDR adjustments for this tv and post them in this forum.

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Lower Backlight Setting

Greetings Colleagues,

I recently replaced the backlight strip panels in a co-worker's LG TV which has similar backlights to our TV. The co-worker had her TV on "torch mode"
or the vivid mode, which is not recommended. One of the 60+ backlights went out and caused the picture to go black. Another thing that was recommended was to lower the backlight setting to 30.

To help out the "longevity" of our tv, I adjusted the backlight setting in the standard picture mode and I think that the picture looks better @ a luminance of 50 ftL. The gamma curve, which is posted below, is pretty close to BT.1886. Changes are in bold.

Input Settings: HDMI-2,

Aspect Ratio: Normal

Picture Mode: Standard
Auto Brightness: Off
Backlight: 64
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: 50
Tint: 1
Sharpness: 1

More Picture:
Color Temperature: Normal
Active Full Array: OFF
Clear Action: On
Turn off all other enhancements
Color Space: Auto
Gamma: 2.4

Color Calibration:
Color Tuner:
Gain: Red -10, Green 1, Blue 41
Offset: Red 13, Green 14, Blue 13
Leave all other settings in the color turner to 0.

11 Point White Balance Settings:
Gain = 5%: Red: 15; Green: 15; Blue: 15
Gain = 10%: Red: 9; Green: 9; Blue: 9
Gain = 20%: Red: 8; Green: 8; Blue: 8
Gain = 30%: Red: 5; Green: 5; Blue: 5
All other settings = 0

As always,
Your colleague in picture quality,

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