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#### chiptouz

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Anyone know what the front face angle is? I want to use a set of these for front height and need to figure out how high to mount. I have a 10 foot high ceiling with a 14 foot listening position. Here is a pic from the listening position. Also, where should I mount these in relation to the display?

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#### eriksells916

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Wow that's a wall of sound. Not sure 14ft is back enough lol!

Those who passed geometry class here ya go! 14w x 14h x 10 1/4dt x 5db

#### chiptouz

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Wow that's a wall of sound. Not sure 14ft is back enough lol!

Those who passed geometry class here ya go! 14w x 14h x 10 1/4dt x 5db

Lol ... I get that. I just don’t know what angle the flat pack comes with from DIYSG. I can do the math...trust me I’m an engineer lol.

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#### eriksells916

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@chiptouz ha ha ha got it!

Erich is on here, maybe he will chime in but I believe the flat packs include all of the wood, no binding posts, stuffing, etc.

#### jehlinge

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I just measured mine. I got 104 degrees on the bottom and 74 degrees on the top. That's about as precise as I can get with my kids plastic protractor. From one fellow engineer to another...probably close enough.

#### Dave in Green

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Lol ... I get that. I just don’t know what angle the flat pack comes with from DIYSG. I can do the math...trust me I’m an engineer lol.
An engineer can't calculate the angle given the flat pack dimensions of 14" x 14" x 10.25" (top) 5.5" (bottom)?

#### jehlinge

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Lol ... I get that. I just donâ€™️t know what angle the flat pack comes with from DIYSG. I can do the math...trust me Iâ€™️m an engineer lol.
An engineer can't calculate the angle given the flat pack dimensions of 14" x 14" x 10.25" (top) 5.5" (bottom)? /forum/images/smilies/eek.gif
This engineer can... But my kids protractor was handy and easier than doing math 😀.

However I did decide to check my measurement with the math. Rounded to the nearest degree that gives 70 for the top angle and 110 degrees for bottom angle. Close to my measured angle.

At any rate use a 20 degree angle for the face of the cabinet in reference to the wall.

#### Dave in Green

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This engineer can...
OK, then I will allow products you engineer to be in my home, but I'm still not sure about stuff engineered by @chiptouz.

#### chiptouz

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An engineer can't calculate the angle given the flat pack dimensions of 14" x 14" x 10.25" (top) 5.5" (bottom)?

Didn’t even think about that, but yes I could!

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#### chiptouz

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OK, then I will allow products you engineer to be in my home, but I'm still not sure about stuff engineered by @chiptouz.

Then I hope you never leave your house...lol.. I design roads, actually I don’t design anymore I manage a team of engineers that do the design. Either way. Good call..feeling kinda a duh moment. Lol

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This engineer can...
OK, then I will allow products you engineer to be in my home, but I'm still not sure about stuff engineered by @chiptouz. /forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Fear not as my products won't end up in your home... Unless of course you happen to have a commercial jetliner parked in it!

#### chiptouz

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This engineer can... But my kids protractor was handy and easier than doing math 😀.

However I did decide to check my measurement with the math. Rounded to the nearest degree that gives 70 for the top angle and 110 degrees for bottom angle. Close to my measured angle.

At any rate use a 20 degree angle for the face of the cabinet in reference to the wall.

@jehlinge what are you using your volt10’s for? Do you like the sound? Would they work well for front heights?

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#### jehlinge

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@jehlinge what are you using your volt10â€™️s for? Do you like the sound? Would they work well for front heights?

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I am using them for side and surround duty. They are paired with 1299s for the main and center as well as 4 18 inch ported subs.

They seem to keep with the mains although I do have the gain turned up a bit on them. I am happy with them and will probably use them as my Atmos heights when the day comes for that equipment.

#### bac2040

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Chiptouz - It looks like 70/20 is close enough. Doing a big cheat and using internet triangle calculators it comes to 71.259/18.741.

Doing a rough estimate (assuming 4 ft head height at LP) and subtracting 6 inches for mid-point of Volt for 13.5 feet away, I come up with 8.6 feet to place mid-point of 10 inch Volt on the wall which puts it pretty high up to the 10 foot ceiling. Again used internet triangle calculators and some Geometry that the Mr. Stevens taught us in high school. Of course YMMV. I'm not always right - just ask my wife!

#### chiptouz

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redesigned volt10v2 with a 26 degree front face.

An engineer can't calculate the angle given the flat pack dimensions of 14" x 14" x 10.25" (top) 5.5" (bottom)?
since Dave in Green called me out I decided to do some math....

Looks like the best I can do with regards to my listening position is to get a 26 degree angle to the front heights if I have the top 2 inches from the ceiling. I designed the front face to be 26 degrees (yes more math lol) and this is what I settled on. I have sent this off to a cnc place to get an estimate of the costs. If I had a table saw I would consider doing this myself. Adding in a few peeps to get their opinion too. @blister64 @Archaea, @BCRSS

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since Dave in Green called me out I decided to do some math....

Looks like the best I can do with regards to my listening position is to get a 26 degree angle to the front heights if I have the top 2 inches from the ceiling. I designed the front face to be 26 degrees (yes more math lol) and this is what I settled on. I have sent this off to a cnc place to get an estimate of the costs. If I had a table saw I would consider doing this myself. Adding in a few peeps to get their opinion too. @blister64 @Archaea, @BCRSS

I think they look good. Straight edge and power saw will get you the same results. Here are my volt 6's for Atmos. Had to make the baffle also and used a router with power saw for cuts.

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#### chiptouz

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I think they look good. Straight edge and power saw will get you the same results. Here are my volt 6's for Atmos. Had to make the baffle also and used a router with power saw for cuts.

@BCRSS looks great! How did you attach to the ceiling?

For the front heights I am going to use a French cleat system with some small rubber bumpers on the bottom for the wall.

Wish I had a table saw. I would easily do it myself. But who knows? Maybe I will or I’ll drive to @blister64 house. He has all the awesome tools!

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#### jehlinge

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That's how I hung mine. Hangman cleats that were french cleats style from the home improvement store and some bumpers on the bottom. Hangs pretty close to the wall.

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@BCRSS looks great! How did you attach to the ceiling?

For the front heights I am going to use a French cleat system with some small rubber bumpers on the bottom for the wall.

Wish I had a table saw. I would easily do it myself. But who knows? Maybe I will or I’ll drive to @blister64 house. He has all the awesome tools!

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When I mounted on walls I used z plates,. I found these were pretty nice and installed fast.

For my ceiling mounts of the Volt6 I drilled hole through my top and used 1/4x2 1/2 inch lag screw. Screwed directly into ceiling joist. Top of my box I mounted 1/4 inch felt furniture pad Used a rubber washer inside to seal hole I drilled and called it a day.

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