Originally Posted by marcolisi /forum/post/19598940
Hi guys, do u know if there is a non original VW-VH04 cheaper to buy ?
I need just the VW-VH04 cable without the battery.
Originally Posted by alainhubert /forum/post/19599011
From what I've seen around on the web, it cost between $60-$90 depending where you look. For that price you can get easily 2 to 3 genuine Panasonic VW-VBG260 batteries from eBay. Why would you carry a pouch with a wire hanging out of it to your camcorder? Unless you've already got a VW-VBG6 battery...
If so, the lowest price I've seen is about $55. Otherwise, I doubt that there is a non-Panasonic alternative out there...
Originally Posted by marcolisi /forum/post/19599543
Hi and thanks for the reply.
I already own 1 VW-VBG6 battery..
I was thinking to parallel connect 2 of them to increase the hour duration and double it.
Anyway, now with your reply I got another idea.
Buy 2 VW-VBG6 battery chargers.
Parallel connect them
Use the vsk0696 AC/DC wire (the one that gets connected to the back of the camcorder) and modify it so that it can gets connected to the 2 parallel connected VW-VBG6 battery chargers.
Thanks for the reply.
I think tx to you I got another cheaper idea....
This is to have the possibility to power on the camcorder for 12 hours.
I let run the camcorder and record overnight, when camping....
Do u know any cheap VW-VBG6 replacement (non original) ?
Originally Posted by alainhubert /forum/post/19599987
The way you describe your modifications would mean that no battery remaining power would be displayed in the camcorder. Also, the DC connector in the back of the camcorder is expecting 9.3 volts (because of internal voltage regulators), not 7.2 volts.
Moreover, these camcorders were not meant to be powered-on for 12 hours or more at a time...(even for time lapse, as I suspect you would try).
Page 142 of the Operating Manual for the TM700 states:"This unit was designed for consumer intermittent use...In certain situations, continuous use could cause the unit to overheat and cause a malfunction. Such use is strongly discouraged."
So if you still do, just make sure it's not a hot summer day (or night).
My two cents on it...
Sorry, I don't know of cheap VW-VBG6 replacements. I just know of VW-VBG260 genuine Panasonic being available on eBay from different Asian sources at lower prices than in stores.
Originally Posted by marcolisi /forum/post/19600324
...Lets see, I will keep u posted if u want, just for curiosity....
Originally Posted by alainhubert /forum/post/19600425
That would be great. I'm curious as to the behavior of the camcorder when powered by a battery but through the DC connector...
One thing I'm certain of, is the lack of digital communications with the monitoring chips inside the battery. Anyway, there's no danger of damaging the camcorder, except if you reverse the polarity. So be careful!
Keep us posted.
Originally Posted by marcolisi /forum/post/0
Just a feedback.
I connected the VW-VBG6 battery to the AC/DC connector/input of the hs350 using
a VW-VBG6 battery charger, and I get the message :
This battery pack is not working...or something like that.
I guess it means that there is some kind of protection in the camcorder so that it is not possible to power up the camcorder using a VW-VBG6 battery pack connected to the camcorder through the AC/DC input.
We have to buy the vw-vh04.
Now my question would be,
can i parallel connect two vw-vh04 together and they will recognized by the camcorder...I am o courious about it, but it is kind of expensive to try...
Originally Posted by alainhubert /forum/post/19613314
The reason for the error message you saw is, like I've stated before, that the camcorder is expecting 9.3v through that DC connector. Since you are connecting a 7.2v battery there, the camcorder knows it's a battery and not a power supply. And thus it wants to be able to communicate with de battery to gather info about its remaining power capacity. It obviously cannot because the communications wires from the battery are not connected.
The message would read: "This battery cannot be used." even though the camcorder powers up fine for about 20 seconds. It's only a question of the lack of communications with the internal digital circuits inside the battery. So even if you connect 2 batteries in parallel, the voltage will still be only 7.2v and the camcorder will still display the same error message and shut down soon after.
Your best solution would be to try to find the lowest price on a VW-VH04.
Originally Posted by marcolisi /forum/post/19617936
...Do u think this second option could work ?
|Originally Posted by marcolisi|
And why u think is not going to work my idea ?
I mean with the sony worked....
On the peek of a mounting is difficoult to carry a car battery or bring the car ....
Could pls be more specific in why u think is not going to work ?
Originally Posted by alainhubert /forum/post/19624331
Simply because, as I have stated before, when supplying 7.2v to the Panasonic camcorder it will want to communicate with the battery. And unless you connect ALL 4 wires marked + D T - from the battery connector to the camera, it will only power-up for a few seconds and display the error message:"This battery cannot be used." and then shut itself off.
It might work on a Sony, but I'm pretty sure it won't on a Panasonic.
Originally Posted by marcolisi /forum/post/19628839
So what about parallel connecting the + and - and serial connecting D and T , buying another VW-VH04 ?
I opened my VW-VH04 and there are 7 wires inside:
Red = I guess +
Black = I guess -
White = I do not know what this is
Yellow = I do not know what this is
Brown = I do not know what this is
2 Big black plastic protected wires, with inside silver colored metallic electric wire = I do not know what these are
Do u have any idea what all the other color are ?
Which are D and T and should I also connect the other color in serial or in parallel ?
Originally Posted by alainhubert /forum/post/19629693
If you don't know the answers to all these questions, maybe you shouldn't tinker with these things after all...Unless you want to possibly end-up with a busted camcorder?
It's not that I don't want to help you out, but I don't want to feel responsible if you do something wrong along the way and possibly hurt yourself (exploding battery cell) or bust your expensive camcorder.
So, if there is someone else willing to help, let them be my guest.
Even though I have some technical knowledge and experience in electronics under my belt, I draw the line here. As I've realized that too much of your tampering is based on guess work on your part.
Better safe than sorry, in your case.
Originally Posted by marcolisi /forum/post/0
Thnkas , but even if u do not reply to this post, I am going to go ahead and do it alone and be careful. So do not worry to be sorry. I am going to go ahead alone.
I wish u could help me, but if u do not want, I can not force u to do that. I may ask around somewhere else or take my chances
Originally Posted by alainhubert /forum/post/19630759
Feel free to do so, and I sincerely wish you good luck with your project, and hope everything works out for you.
One very last hint: watch the polarity VERY carefully each step of the way, and write down notes and compare often while identifying wire colors and their destinations.