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What ceiling mounted speakers should I get?

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I'm finishing my basement and wiring in for 7 ceiling mounted speakers.


I'm looking at the Onkyo TX-SR605 for a receiver.


What speakers should I get? I'd like to keep the whole setup under $1K.

Assuming I can get the receiver for $400, that leaves $600 for speakers. I don't need a sub.


What do people think about the Samsung HT-AS720ST? I'm liking the 4Ohm speakers, and the look of the receiver and sub are eye candy. I'd probably buy another 2 speakers to make it 7.1. I've heard setting up the system can be annoying though. Anyone have it? Which would be better?
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Originally Posted by JoJoDaClown /forum/post/12824066


I'm finishing my basement and wiring in for 7 ceiling mounted speakers.


I'm looking at the Onkyo TX-SR605 for a receiver.


What speakers should I get? I'd like to keep the whole setup under $1K.

Assuming I can get the receiver for $400, that leaves $600 for speakers. I don't need a sub.


What do people think about the Samsung HT-AS720ST? I'm liking the 4Ohm speakers, and the look of the receiver and sub are eye candy. I'd probably buy another 2 speakers to make it 7.1. I've heard setting up the system can be annoying though. Anyone have it? Which would be better?

IMO, none. Ceiling mounted speakers usually sound terrible. If you have room, floorstanders or even ear level wall mounted will sound far better. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by porsche951 /forum/post/12825930


IMO, none. Ceiling mounted speakers usually sound terrible. If you have room, floorstanders or even ear level wall mounted will sound far better. Good luck.

I quite agree. Unless you plan on mounting the screen on the ceiling and laying on the floor looking up.... an all in-ceiling system will be about the poorest performing sound system you could possibly have. ESPECIALLY using stuff in the price range you are talking about.


About the only way to get an all in-ceiling array to sound decent is with something like TRIAD in-ceiling speakers which are custom built for YOUR room and application. And, you're looking in the $400 to $600 (or more) range PER SPEAKER for their stuff.

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Originally Posted by JoJoDaClown /forum/post/12824066


I'm finishing my basement and wiring in for 7 ceiling mounted speakers.

What speakers should I get?

None at all or at least one's YOU like!


How are we suppose to know how you like your sound?
Excuse me for being clueless, but can someone explain to me why in-ceiling speakers would sound poorly?

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Originally Posted by Davidt1 /forum/post/12826248


Excuse me for being clueless, but can someone explain to me why in-ceiling speakers would sound poorly?

Hmmm.... maybe because all of the sound is coming from ABOVE you?


Which, in a worst case scenario might be fine for the surround speakers.... but not everything else.
NOT IN-CEILING, but speakers that are mounted to the ceiling. My basement will have a lot of people moving about, and a dog and cat running around, and eventually kids. I want the speakers up. I have enough room that ceiling mounted speakers will be fine when I aim them towards the sweet spot.


So, back to my question: What ceiling mounted speakers should I get. They have to be something that either already has mounts or can be mounted with mounts. Obviously not something huge, but not teeny.

I know what I'm going for, so please don't try to redirect me.
"I know what I'm going for, so please don't try to redirect me." Ignorance is bliss, eh? You received good advice that in or "on" ceiling speakers have poor sound, then you ignore the advice. You are willing to settle for mediocre sound because you have a room with pets and kids and people "moving about"; sounds like everyone elses room... Good luck.
Look at the SVS speakers. Their bookshelf SBS-1s have built in mounting flanges, and they sell the ceiling mounts on their site. They also have several reviews linked, and they all sounded very favorable. www.svsound.com , click on products.

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Originally Posted by JoJoDaClown /forum/post/12827422


I know what I'm going for, so please don't try to redirect me.

With an attitude like that, good luck. You won't get much help.


You asked for opinions and help -- and people are giving it...then you respond like above.

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Just find speakers you like at ear level. Then mount them on the ceiling. I would looks at Svs or Ascend 200se

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Originally Posted by JoJoDaClown /forum/post/12827422


NOT IN-CEILING, but speakers that are mounted to the ceiling. My basement will have a lot of people moving about, and a dog and cat running around, and eventually kids. I want the speakers up. I have enough room that ceiling mounted speakers will be fine when I aim them towards the sweet spot.


So, back to my question: What ceiling mounted speakers should I get. They have to be something that either already has mounts or can be mounted with mounts. Obviously not something huge, but not teeny.

I know what I'm going for, so please don't try to redirect me.

By all means.... please pardon my ignorance and mis reading of your original question.



But in an effort to once again answer your questions....


First of all, as to people, pets and kids.... it's called TRAINING. About 10 minutes with the water squirt bottle, and our cat never goes near our speakers. Same with our 80# Chocolate Lab.... although, it took a bit more patience, he KNOWS never to go near the gear or he is in big trouble. As for my two kids and guests.... learn to say NO. My kids know their LIFE is in mortal danger if they mess with the HT gear. They have their own gear but, the HT gear is off limits. With over $15K invested in speakers, separate amps, pre-amps, video and source gear, until they are old enough to KNOW how to operate everything correctly, they are not to touch.


But, I digress.... I'm not supposed to "redirect." Pardon me once again.


You know, there is a reason every single HT speaker set up guide you read be it from Dolby, THX, speaker manufacturers, general set up guides or whatever.... without fail.... always recommend that in the front sound stage (L,C,R speakers), the tweeter be placed as close to ear level as possible.


If you want the system to sound half way decent.... the L, C, R speakers should be firing right at you in the same plane to create a "realistic" front sound stage where 80 to 90 percent of your sound is coming from. It's fine to mount surrounds high and point them down because so little information is generally recorded in the surround channels that it won't really matter all that much. In fact, Dolby actually recommends that side surrounds in a 7.1 system be mounted 2 to 3 feet above the listening position.


Sorry.... enough of me trying to convince you that simply mounting speakers ON the ceiling and "pointing" them at the listening position will not only be distracting because cars, planes, voices or anything else normally in front of you as the action is happening on the screen is now coming from above you (and believe me, you WILL notice the distraction), but room boundry reflections (again, making an assumption that the speakers will not only be near the ceiling, but also walls or gosh forbid.... corners as well) will further degrade sound quality.


Dang it.... I did it again.



Oh, snap.... I give up. I can't in good conscious recommend anything ON ceiling mounted that's going to sound good. (IMHO of course) Unless, like I mentioned earlier something from TRIAD who is going to custom design something for your particular room and possibly something from Sonance. But, those are out of the budget design.


I would just go with SVS, HSU, HTD, Aperion Audio, Ascend, Axiom, AV123, Polk, JBL, or whatever fits the budget and be done with it. All are well respected brands and with the ID brands especially.... have great customer service.


Good luck in your project....

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this is a forum frequented by audiophiles, they don't like giving crappy advice. If you want crappy advice on how to set up a crappy front sound stage, I suggest reading the reviews at amazon.

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Originally Posted by linh /forum/post/12831198


this is a forum frequented by audiophiles, they don't like giving crappy advice. If you want crappy advice on how to set up a crappy front sound stage, I suggest reading the reviews at amazon.

THANK YOU.... I really DO try to offer correct advice. Advice that will stand the test of time. But sometimes folks just have their minds made up on the how, why or what of a project and aren't interested in suggestions on how their plan could be improved.


That's fine though.... it's certainly the OP's right, and my opinions certainly aren't set in stone or definitive. They are after all.... just my opinion based on MY experiences.
I am sorta in the same situation, however I will have my L,C,R speakers at ear level.


I am looking at a 7.1 surround system and like I said can place the LCR speakers at ear level. Due to space constraints, I might have to mount the 4 remaining surround speakers on (not in) the ceiling pointed downward.


I could possibly mount the Left surround and the Right surround on the wall at ear level with the left back and right back on the celing point downward.


What would be the better setup?
Hey guys,


I had the same situation. I have a finished basement that I someday will convert in to a home theater/media room. I also have a lot of people and kids running around so I didn't want to have any speakers shown.


So what I did may sound strange to some, but trust me...they sound awsome, didn't cost a fortune, and definately kick a#@ when listening to. I fell in love w/ the way that the Cerwin Vega bookshelves sounded. I have a drop ceiling in my basement. So what I did was hang them on my floor joists w/ speaker brackets, angled them to the veiwing area, and installed speaker grates in my tiles.


Yes the sound does come from above, but my LCD is on top of my fireplace, so the screen is somewhat elevated.
I just installed a 7.1 setup of Speakercraft AIM7 three in-ceiling speakers with an AIM LCR three in wall speaker for the center speaker. Maybe I'm not the audiophile that some others are but I couldn't be happier.


I did go and listen to speaker setups before I purchased these speakers and did find that with the center speaker speaker in-ceiling I could tell all of the sound was coming from above. By moving the center near the tv, above or below, I can not tell the other speakers are in the ceiling. My room is small 17' x 15' so that may help. The ability to pivot the drivers and tweeters probably helps also.


Don't let these guys convince you that you can't put together a quality sounding in-ceiling sytem. They just have a hard time thinking out of the box.
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