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Here's my new screen (put it over my old one for testing) that I have been using in ambient light (if the animated GIF doesn't work click the link below). There is a matte white piece of paper over my current screen for comparison. The actual room not anywhere near as dark as the animated GIF may suggest (if it looks really dark on you monitor, meaning you can barely see anything else besides the image on the screen). There is one shaded 40-watt bulb in the same room (about 7 feet away), but it's enough to light up the whole room when the light bounces off the walls. I try to keep all direct rays off the screen, but in the actual room I can comfortably read a newspaper if I wanted too and everything is very clear. The room is bright enough to get up and move around and even carry on discussion with friends. The sheet of paper best tells how much brighter it really is since you can still tell it's white even though the camcorder darkened the footage due to it's bad low light capability. If I look to my right at the door I can easily tell it's bright white. Any grain is from my camcorder. You may have to turn up your gamma or brightness if it's too dark (just enough until you can see the wall and door on the right).


NOTE: IF my short animated GIF video clips below are not working for you read the easy solution below:


If these are not working even when you click on them you can right click the links below and "Save As" then "Save" and they should definitely work. They're pretty small files that are short in length and will download very quickly on cable/dsl.


Underworld:

http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/buyitch...derworld_3.gif

http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/buyitch...derworld_3.gif


Another (opening footage of The Lost World):

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/angelus...nt_Light_2.gif

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/angelus...nt_Light_2.gif


And Another (Xena):

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/angelus...ht_scene_3.gif

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/angelus...ht_scene_3.gif


One More (JP: The Lost World):

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/angelus/Lost_World_1.gif

http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/angelus/Lost_World_1.gif




I'm using some kind of medium to dark silver silk like fabric. The projector is an Infocus X1. One thing I've learned to stop doing is comparing screens against each other at the same time, because each time I have done that I end up choosing what the brightest one because my eyes adjust to it, but then I wonder why I am still unhappy. When I don't compare I end up with a nice silver screen like I'm using now and am very happy with everything. The blacks on this screen are fantastic now (BTW, I'm also a CRT owner, but sadly it needs a new part), especially for a digital.


Movies/TV DVDs with dark scenes are at least 10X more watchable now with my one light on. The depth of the image seems much much better, especially with all the lights off. The screen is of course dimmer than matte white, but it enhances percieved contrast a lot. Plus it does whites and colors very well, and does blacks about as well as my dark gray screen does. The contrast just seems so much better. I now realize the blacks are more important to me than the whites and extra brightness, because the whites on this thing are bright white when my eyes are adjusted for this screen only, but my white screen can never make a good black even when my eyes area adjusted for it. The dark scenes and high contrast scenes have me very impressed. One thing that I find funny is that Underworld now has a better black level with a light on than it did before on the white screen with the lights off. lol.


This screen has given me depth, virtually eliminated SDE and pretty much completely diminished that horrible digital video noise.


Unfortunately, I have no clue how these animated GIFs will look on each person's monitors since settings vary. I have two monitors here and the GIFs look drastically different (one is dark and more contrasty and one seems to have the gamma pumped up higher). The more brightness and more detail you bring out the more grain you'll see from my camera. Its horrible low light ability will be exposed. lol. You should be able to see the wall and door on the right of the image, but they should still look a little dark. I wish I had a camera to take some good quality stills, but I dont yet, so sorry. :)


Anyway, I'm curious if anyone has else has a screen that they find to be good in ambient light. I'm wondering if I can get anything any better. I have experimented with polarizing films, but it didn't turn out as I hoped. Those might work better for rear projection (which I plan on trying soon)


Has anyone tried mixing grey and silver to make a screen? I'm wondering if that could turn out something as good or better.


If these are overly dark please let me know and I'll try to fix it. I have some new film on the way from 3M, so I'm looking forward to seeing if that is useful or not.
 

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Not to hijack your thread, but check out my concontion. It is also a dark gray colour that rejects ambient light and makes watching my Benq6100 during the day a pleasure.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=567292
No problem. Your screen looks very interesting.



MY animated GIFs are no longer working for me even when I click on them so if you all can't view them at all try copying and pasting the links below (you'll need to simply erase the word "DOT" and insert a real dot in its place. That should work.

wwwDOTangelfire.com/ar2/buyitcheap/Underworld_3.gif

wwwDOTangelfire.com/ar3/angelus/Universal_Logo_with_Ambient_Light_2.gif

wwwDOTangelfire.com/ar3/angelus/Xena_night_scene_3.gif

wwwDOTangelfire.com/ar3/angelus/Lost_World_1.gif


I'm not sure what the linking problem is, but these above work for me. Sorry about the problem.
 
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