[rhrbcool]

I have: definitive technology: room size 35'x16' distance from couch to projector screen is 13 feet (theater room alone is 16x12) One side opens up to game room but, I only need to get a good sound in my theater room. No one gonna watch a movie from a game room


bp 2002 towers

clr 2500 center

bp1x surround back

mythos gem xl side surround

pro monitor 1000 front presence left and right

Reciver Yamaha RX-A1020


I was wondering do i need to add a subwoofer? if i do, whats the best one,and i also thought to put 2 subs (opinions on that) thanks...


My main goal are only action movies no music listening in my 15x12 theater room. this is my theater room setup .. thanks for all help and advise i just need to cover a 15x12 room with sound it does have one open wall into a game room, but no sound or speakers needed there.


Also sub placement info would be great...

Budget per sub $600

thanks for all help

 

[lovinthehd]

Maybe something like the SVS PB1000 would suit you well, and come in under budget delivered (and has a generous return/upgrade policy and excellent customer service from most accounts). I would recommend at least dual subs in a space your size especially if you have multiple seating positions to cover. There's a lot of sub setup help around here, like this http://www.avsforum.com/t/1004573/setting-up-your-subwoofer-101 .


Personally I'd suggest you spend a bit more and consider a larger sub like the SVS PB2000, or perhaps a Rythmik LV12R. Lots of folk buy at one level for budget purposes and then later have to "upgrade" anyways....

 

[eljaycanuck]



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budget per sub $600

+1 to the Rythmik LV12R ($599, shipped).

 

[bear123]


Dual Rythmik LV12R or dual PB12-NSD, both options run $600 each, shipped.  Corner loading on opposite ends of the room is often a good option for placement.

 

Be aware there is a big step up in output from the $600 to $800 range with ID subs.

 

[eljaycanuck]

Right, I forgot about the PB12-NSD being on sale. $600 is a hell of a price for that sub. +1 to a couple of those, too!

 

[rhrbcool]

Thank you so much to all of you guys! I corrected my post to be more clear in what I need.


I also would like to know what is the difference between subs and ID subs?


After i will get two subs how should i wire my center c/l/r 2500? Right now it is connected with a speaker wire to high and midrange post and for low i run LFE cable from receiver centrer output.


Do i leave it as it is or should i run speaker wire to all of three posts and disconnect from centrer output on receiver? Thank you again!


my receiver is a yamaha rxa1020... thanks again for all help in perfecting my theater room sound

 

[bear123]



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Originally Posted by rhrbcool  /t/1517735/what-is-the-best-subwoofer-for-my-speaker-setup#post_24357421
 I also would like to know what is the difference between subs and ID subs? 

ID stands for internet direct business model.  There is generally no store front, no distributors, and very little advertising.  So you have subwoofers offered that have the majority of the money put into the quality of the product, with no markup for retail sales.

 

You get twice the sub, maybe triple the performance, for less than what you pay at a retailer, with a warranty up to fives times better.

 

For example...who in the world ever heard of getting a full 5 year warranty on stereo equipment?  1 year trade up policy to a better product?  Free shipping?  45 day 100% free in home trials with free shipping both ways?  These are the types of benefits offered by ID companies.

 

[rhrbcool]

Thank you bear123 for detial explanation. So, if I gonna go with id sub or subs what would be the brands and model if it is only 200$ diferrence i can do that.

 

[lovinthehd]



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Originally Posted by bear123  /t/1517735/what-is-the-best-subwoofer-for-my-speaker-setup#post_24357681

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 I also would like to know what is the difference between subs and ID subs? 

ID stands for internet direct business model.  There is generally no store front, no distributors, and very little advertising.  So you have subwoofers offered that have the majority of the money put into the quality of the product, with no markup for retail sales.


You get twice the sub, maybe triple the performance, for less than what you pay at a retailer, with a warranty up to fives times better.


For example...who in the world ever heard of getting a full 5 year warranty on stereo equipment?  1 year trade up policy to a better product?  Free shipping?  45 day 100% free in home trials with free shipping both ways?  These are the types of benefits offered by ID companies.

That may be a bit much praise for the ID model, there isn't always a 5 full year warranty on the electronics, trade up policy and free shipping. There is no such thing as free shipping (having been in the business for years

) but rather some that will include shipping costs into their retail model, mostly one way in the case of ID speaker/sub companies; a couple offer free return shipping after a trial period (and it could be said B&M stores offer free shipping, at least if you're fairly close to the store to take advantage of that). Types of benefits, yes, but mostly you're talking SVS in your example (and I'd probably only go with the subs from them in the future, having bought some of their speakers before). The price to performance ratio does mostly make the B&M offerings a waste of time unless you absolutely must hear something in a store first (which in the case of speakers doesn't always tell you much) or there is a killer clearance sale going on. That said, all my speakers and subs were via the internet, altho two subs were usually B&M offerings on closeout thru internet outlets. Then there's DIY/AIY which can offer even more value if you don't mind spending hobby time in construction/assembling and finishing....

 

[bear123]



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Originally Posted by lovinthehd  /t/1517735/what-is-the-best-subwoofer-for-my-speaker-setup#post_24357926



That may be a bit much praise for the ID model, there isn't always a 5 full year warranty on the electronics, trade up policy and free shipping. There is no such thing as free shipping (having been in the business for years

) but rather some that will include shipping costs into their retail model, mostly one way in the case of ID speaker/sub companies; a couple offer free return shipping after a trial period (and it could be said B&M stores offer free shipping, at least if you're fairly close to the store to take advantage of that). Types of benefits, yes, but mostly you're talking SVS in your example (and I'd probably only go with the subs from them in the future, having bought some of their speakers before). The price to performance ratio does mostly make the B&M offerings a waste of time unless you absolutely must hear something in a store first (which in the case of speakers doesn't always tell you much) or there is a killer clearance sale going on. That said, all my speakers and subs were via the internet, altho two subs were usually B&M offerings on closeout thru internet outlets. Then there's DIY/AIY which can offer even more value if you don't mind spending hobby time in construction/assembling and finishing....

Did not mean to imply that all companies offered all the benefits listed, just that these were examples of some of the benefits offered.  In contrast to retailers, where most of these things are unheard of.

 

[bear123]



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Originally Posted by rhrbcool  /t/1517735/what-is-the-best-subwoofer-for-my-speaker-setup#post_24357886


Thank you bear123 for detial explanation. So, if I gonna go with id sub or subs what would be the brands and model if it is only 200$ diferrence i can do that.

If your 35 x 16 room is relatively open you may want to consider a sub large enough for the entire space in order to sound good.  As such, bumping your $600 budget up to $800 would allow you to stretch for the much higher outputs of the following subs:  PSA XV15, HSU VTF3.4, Outlaw LFM1-EX, and SVS PB2000.

 

I listed those in order of what I believe to be highest output to lowest, but those are the four I would look at if you want to bump the budget a bit.

 

[lovinthehd]

Or maybe a pair of the subs from the new kid on the block http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/dual-bps-212-turbo-powered-subwoofers and you get the benefit of dual subs over a single.

 

[rhrbcool]



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Originally Posted by bear123  /t/1517735/what-is-the-best-subwoofer-for-my-speaker-setup#post_24364443


If your 35 x 16 room is relatively open you may want to consider a sub large enough for the entire space in order to sound good.  As such, bumping your $600 budget up to $800 would allow you to stretch for the much higher outputs of the following subs:  PSA XV15, HSU VTF3.4, Outlaw LFM1-EX, and SVS PB2000.


I listed those in order of what I believe to be highest output to lowest, but those are the four I would look at if you want to bump the budget a bit.

thank you so much, i really love your outstanding feed back. I am looking foward to get one of those you listed. I just wasn't sure if I need sub for intire space even when i only gonna watch in 16×12 room

 

[rhrbcool]



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Originally Posted by lovinthehd  /t/1517735/what-is-the-best-subwoofer-for-my-speaker-setup#post_24365236


Or maybe a pair of the subs from the new kid on the block http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/dual-bps-212-turbo-powered-subwoofers and you get the benefit of dual subs over a single.

is it count as id subs? Do you think it is not to much power for me? I am asking because my towers and centre have a built in sub. so, even if i will get sub/subs i still should get some bass from front speakers. Or is it gonna be different? Sorry, I am really new to HT stuff. got set up from a friend not long time ago. Thank you again.

 

[bear123]



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Originally Posted by rhrbcool  /t/1517735/what-is-the-best-subwoofer-for-my-speaker-setup#post_24365750



thank you so much, i really love your outstanding feed back. I am looking foward to get one of those you listed. I just wasn't sure if I need sub for intire space even when i only gonna watch in 16×12 room

If it is a small opening, like a normal doorway, you can probably treat it like a 16*12 room.  But if it is relatively open, you should consider sizing the subwoofer for the entire space, in which case the step up to the $800 offerings would prove helpful.