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My 10 year old 34" 34XBR800 Sony widescreen CRT appears to be dying so I'm shopping for a 60" plasma to replace it. I am only considering plasma since it will be going into a living room where much of the viewing will be from the side behind the kitchen bar counter separating the kitchen from the dining/living room. Even much of the viewing will be from an angle from the dining table in the dining are next to the living room. The TV will sit on the long south wall that separates a staircase to the upper level and there are 2 very large windows on the west wall including a high upper window that goes up to the vaulted ceiling and is about 1/2 way behind the TV plane. There is 1 large window on the north wall just behind the dining table behind where I sit and next to the sofa. There are also 2 smaller windows in the kitchen, but negligible light and distance to affect lighting. All the windows are covered by mini-blinds and the only time I experience glare on my CRT is during Sunday afternoons 2-5 pm in the fall watching NFL (go Broncos!) with some blinds reflection from about 2-3pm. I still believe CRTs are way superior to flat screens as they handle motion much better and seem clearer. I've noticed blurriness on plasmas when panning across scenery and pixellation in football with both plasma and LED.


Originally, the LG 60PN6500 was the best deal at $900 (I've found it for as cheap as $800 + $61 tax at Microcenter) and all other 60" plasmas were hundred of dollars more. But yesterday I found a Panasonic TC-60PU54 on Amazon for $765.99 + $104.00 shipping, which ends up only $9 more. Yesterday I also found the TC-60PU50 at a local Walmart for only $700. Now that is over $100 cheaper than the LG. Consumer Reports rated the PQ of the 50S60 better than the 50PN6500, but I have no idea how the S50 compares. Can someone tell me the difference between the S60/S64 and U50/U54? I posted this question in the U50/U544 thread, but haven't received any response, and reading the last 25% of posts, so far, there is mostly only talk of calibration settings. Does the U54 have a matte screen like the future S64 will?
 

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Try looking for the S64 it is the club version of the S60 and includes the AR vilter that the ST60 has.


The S64 does NOT have a matte screen it has an AR filter.......I dont think any of the recent plasmas have matte screens. If brightness and or glarre are going to be an issue then I would highly recommend either shades\blinds or stepping it up the the S64......The 20132 models of TVs out perform the 2012s in almost everyway.....
 

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I don't think the S64 is out yet. Depends on how much longer my CRT lasts and how much I can get the S64 for. Will the S64 only be available through Costco and Sams?


Btw, I don't want 3D (already wear glasses and don't want to have to wear 2 at once, plus lack of content), don' t need any internet crap (I'll be building my own HTPC to stream any content through my CAT 5 network and mostly watch OTA and have a Blueray player), and don't need any Smart functions.
 

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Ok, so I've done some more research and shopping and so far have come up with the conclusion on PQ:

Panasonic S64 > Panasonic S60 > Samsung E530 > LG PN6500/PA6500/PA65

I just don't know where the Panasonic U50 fits in above.


Maybe I should have titled this thread "What is the best 60" Plasma under $1000".

I don't think the Panasonic 60S60 can be found for under $1000. If the S60 series are this expensive, the ST series are probably way out of my budget.

The S64 is $1448 at Sams, but that really blows my budget of under $1000.

If the U50 is superior to the D530, then that looks like the best deal, except for the light/reflection issues. Why don't they put filters on all the plasmas? Who the hell wants to watch a mirror and who lives in a black hole?
 

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I can also see motion blurriness as well as jaggies (like if you look at a person's shirt collar) on both plasma and LED TVs. I don't notice that on my CRT even looking very close up. Are these artifacts simply weaknesses of plasma and LED technology? Are they simply still inferior to CRT? Granted, this from viewing store sets which have the signal split to a dozen or more TVs, but I'm comparing to a simple cable HD feed on my CRT. The flickering colors of plasma also bothers me.
 

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Samsung PN60F5300 can be had for $949 @ BB
 

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Originally Posted by HDTimeShifter  /t/1469057/what-is-the-best-value-60-1080p-plasma#post_23245609


Ok, so I've done some more research and shopping and so far have come up with the conclusion on PQ:

Panasonic S64 > Panasonic S60 > Samsung E530 > LG PN6500/PA6500/PA65

I just don't know where the Panasonic U50 fits in above.


Maybe I should have titled this thread "What is the best 60" Plasma under $1000".

I don't think the Panasonic 60S60 can be found for under $1000. If the S60 series are this expensive, the ST series are probably way out of my budget.

The S64 is $1448 at Sams, but that really blows my budget of under $1000.

If the U50 is superior to the D530, then that looks like the best deal, except for the light/reflection issues. Why don't they put filters on all the plasmas? Who the hell wants to watch a mirror and who lives in a black hole?

Found some CR and CNet reviews of the U50 and it is superior to the Samsung E530 and LG 6500/6550.

So Panasonic S64 > Panasonic S60 > Panasonic U50 > Samsung E530 > LG PN6500/PA6500/PA65


I also saw the Samsung PN60F5300AFX for $948 at Walmart.


I've narrowed it down to either the Panasonic TC-P60U50 for $700 or blow my budget by paying twice as much for an AR filter with the 65S64 for $1448.
 

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Originally Posted by HDTimeShifter  /t/1469057/what-is-the-best-value-60-1080p-plasma#post_23249272


Found some CR and CNet reviews of the U50 and it is superior to the Samsung E530 and LG 6500/6550.

So Panasonic S64 > Panasonic S60 > Panasonic U50 > Samsung E530 > LG PN6500/PA6500/PA65


I also saw the Samsung PN60F5300AFX for $948 at Walmart.


I've narrowed it down to either the Panasonic TC-P60U50 for $700 or blow my budget by paying twice as much for an AR filter with the 65S64 for $1448.

I've done a lot of back and forth over the past few weeks, but I'm going to see if my local Costco has the 65S64 tonight for $1399.99. If they do.. well.. yeeaaahhh buddy!
 
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