[JapanDave]

Did a search and could not find anything on what I was wanting, but I am looking for a PJ that will light up a 150" 2.37:1 screen (138" wide with AT, so gain will be around the 1 mark). The room is completely light controlled BTW


I was originally looking a the JVC JVC DLA-HD350 for the blacks, but I have been told that it won't produce enough light. Also I was concerned that with fast moving action movies that the PJ will not be able to keep up. On top of that it is supposed to produce soft images compared to other PJ.


So what projector can anyone recomend for fast moving action movies that has relatively good blacks (contrast) that will sufficently light up a 150" screen. I am all new to this game so any advise is welcome.

 

[Sherardp]



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Originally Posted by JapanDave /forum/post/16839292


Did a search and could not find anything on what I was wanting, but I am looking for a PJ that will light up a 150" 2.37:1 screen (138" wide with AT, so gain will be around the 1 mark). The room is completely light controlled BTW


I was originally looking a the JVC JVC DLA-HD350 for the blacks, but I have been told that it won't produce enough light. Also I was concerned that with fast moving action movies that the PJ will not be able to keep up. On top of that it is supposed to produce soft images compared to other PJ.


So what projector can anyone recomend for fast moving action movies that has relatively good blacks (contrast) that will sufficently light up a 150" screen. I am all new to this game so any advise is welcome.

Where in Japan are you? PM me and I will let you see an RS10 if you're near me. Anyway I think for such a large screen the Epson would be a nice fit depending on type of screen. If you use a Da-lite HP screen I think the HD350 would work fine. Some users here had a RS1 paired with 150"+ screens using the Hi-power screen, so the JVC may even work for you.


As for motion blur you should try to demo a JVC to determine if you can actually detect it, some users can't really see it. I definitely would not rule out the JVC just yet.

 

[JapanDave]



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Originally Posted by Sherardp /forum/post/16839492


Where in Japan are you? PM me and I will let you see an RS10 if you're near me. Anyway I think for such a large screen the Epson would be a nice fit depending on type of screen. If you use a Da-lite HP screen I think the HD350 would work fine. Some users here had a RS1 paired with 150"+ screens using the Hi-power screen, so the JVC may even work for you.


As for motion blur you should try to demo a JVC to determine if you can actually detect it, some users can't really see it. I definitely would not rule out the JVC just yet.

Thanks for the advise, I will look up those products you have suggested and get back to you.


BTW, you have PM.

 

[Drexler]

Are you planning to use an anamorphic lens? You will get a bit more brightness this way.


If you are I guess you need to have about 1100-1200 calibrated lumens out of the projector to allow for some bulb aging as well. This will start you off with about 17-19 FtL assuing a gain of 1.0 and about 15% light loss in the lens.


Few projectors can do this. The IN83 puts out about 1000 calibrated lumens which might be ok, the Optoma 81LV even more but this model has been plagued with reliability issues so I wouldn't recommend it.


BenQ is releasing a light cannon this fall (W6000). It is speced at 2500 lumens and 30 000:1 contrast ratio. Assuming you get at least half of the lumens after calibration you should be good.


I'm currently waiting for samples of acoustically transparent materials from several manufacturers. Hold out a few weeks and I might be able to give you a comparison report.

 

[Jason Turk]

I should comment that the RS10 is about as bright as there is in the sub $10k range (you cannot pay attention to the rated specs from most companies).


Here are the numbers:

150" diag. 2.35:1 = 58.75"x138" VA = 56.30'


Using an anamorphic lens with the RS10:

The RS10 varies in light output depending on many factors, including the throw, particular projector, lamp mode, setup, etc... Let's assume a mid throw, normal calibrated setup with a good overall unit, which would be about 600 lumens ballpark.


600/56.30=10.66 footlamberts, less ballpark 10% for the light loss associated with an anamorphic lens = 9.59 footlamberts


In the days of CRT's this would have been considered good, but now with digital it is a bit low. A commercial theater is 12-16 for comparison. I would probably recommend you go with more than a 1.0 gain screen to help out with the end result.


If you don't use an anamorphic lens (zoom), you will be somewhat less than that (if you want the numbers let me know). Of course this doesn't take into consideration you might run it slightly different, use high lamp, bulb dimming, etc... But you get the idea.


I personally use a 53"x124"...and I have used the RS10 on it. It works no problem...I might suggest in the interest of maximizing performance of your setup, to go a tad smaller than what you planned.

 

[JapanDave]

I am going to use an A lens. So I want a PJ that will at least be able to get the recomended ft lamberts for a 150" screen. If the JVC are not suitable what other projectors are there that may be able to do the job?


@ Drexler, what is the image quality like on a BenQ? And what price is the MSRP?

 

[Drexler]



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Originally Posted by JapanDave /forum/post/16845083


@ Drexler, what is the image quality like on a BenQ? And what price is the MSRP?

$2500


BenQ are known for good bang-for-the-buck-value.


Haven't seen this one (is it out yet?), but previous models have been very sharp with accurate colors albeit lacking a bit in contrast in darker scenes.


If you're really into the performers in ultra dark scenes this might not be for you, but with this size of screen and gain, your options are very limited. And maybe the performance has improved significantly from previous models?


There is a thread for it here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1127322

 

[jediod]

I know its only 720p...but what about an Infocus 777 3-chip DLP. I have one and its a light cannon. It would easliy do a 150 inch screen.

 

[Jason Turk]



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Originally Posted by jediod /forum/post/16863042


I know its only 720p...but what about an Infocus 777 3-chip DLP. I have one and its a light cannon. It would easliy do a 150 inch screen.

A 3 Chip DLP would certainly be the best option, but the 1080p versions are big bucks and 720p's you only find used. 720p isn't all that critical assuming the viewing distance is okay, but with a 150" screen it would have to be a darn big room.

 

[JapanDave]



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Originally Posted by Jason Turk /forum/post/16865314


A 3 Chip DLP would certainly be the best option, but the 1080p versions are big bucks and 720p's you only find used. 720p isn't all that critical assuming the viewing distance is okay, but with a 150" screen it would have to be a darn big room.

What three chip DLP's are there in 1080p? I want to watch as close as I can so I quality PJ is imperative. I am losing faith in the google god, as it is not helping me much.

 

[Sherardp]



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Originally Posted by JapanDave /forum/post/16866818


What three chip DLP's are there in 1080p? I want to watch as close as I can so I quality PJ is imperative. I am losing faith in the google god, as it is not helping me much.

Go ahead and spring for a Sim2 and be done with it. You'll get great PQ, it will and should fill the image size you want to go with and you'll be happy for a long time.


Edit: Genki Desuka?

 

[Jason Turk]



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Originally Posted by JapanDave /forum/post/16866818


What three chip DLP's are there in 1080p? I want to watch as close as I can so I quality PJ is imperative. I am losing faith in the google god, as it is not helping me much.

Quite a few. The least expensive is the Sim2 C3X1080 (though still top end performance, and not what I would call inexpensive).

 

[08-450dually]

How about the new InFocus 8602? If AVS carries them maybe even a good price can be had.


Waddya say Jason???


Jaime

 

[Jason Turk]

Funny you should ask....just got in my pricing.