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What year will the first <$1000 receiver with at least 4 HDMI inputs come out?

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2005, not a chance.
One year after you broke down and bought one with only 2 or 3......


seriously, I think many would be better off looking at video switchers/processors for these answers in the future rather than trying to find an audio component that dedicates that much time (and back panel real estate) to a video problem...I would rather have them spend more on seeing to it that it is a good audio unit. I mean, how much a percentage of the manufacturing cost of a new 1k receiver is tied up in transcoding and multiple component ins and video in general?
Two HDMI inputs should be "standard" on any new
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Two HDMI inputs should be "standard" on any new
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Sony has a 1xHDMI (1 input, 1 output) receiver coming out next month for under $400, IIRC. If they can do one input for $300-$400, it seems they should be able to do two for under $1000 within the next year.
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Sony has a 1xHDMI (1 input, 1 output) receiver coming out next month for under $400, IIRC. If they can do one input for $300-$400, it seems they should be able to do two for under $1000 within the next year.
So is Panasonic. You could be right. Although I dont believe manufacturers will shorten their product update cycle from 12months to something shorter just to get HDMI out. V2500, 56TXi, 3805 just came out so we'll have to wait for awhile for the new models.
Did I say Sony? That was a typo, I meant Panasonic.
Hopefully there will be many 2 input HDMI choices for the next product cycle in 2005 in the $1000 range. 2 input HDMI on 2005 TVs would be nice also.


JCPZero
One of the reasons I didn't put years above 2007 is that I remembered an old HDMI press release that had a HDMI input for $15 and a HDMI output for $12, both of which supported 8 channel audio at 24-bit/96-kHz PCM. With 4 inputs and one output the HDMI components would be $72. Even if the cost of the encryption and internal connections doubled the price that would still be a cost of under $150.


HDMI is the standard connection for HDTV the same way that composite was for SDTV. A HDMI output will even be found on at least one, and probably all three, of the next generation video game consoles. The simplification of audio/video connections is one thing that the consumer electronics (CE) industry understands and can sell to consumers. They can simply show the consumer 3 video cables and 8 audio cables and then show them a single HDMI cable and say that it can do everything those 11 cables can do. Besides the CE industry wanting to sell new products Hollywood will also be pushing HDMI in an effort to make component video but a memory. For instance it it guaranteed that every Blu-ray/HD-DVD player will have an HDMI/DVI-HDCP output, which incidentally will include the PS3, making future AV receivers far more likely to have HDMI inputs and more of them. Though AV enthusiasts understand the video and audio quality that HDMI delivers it will be HDMI's simplicity that will make it successful.
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Since Anthem has a "4 into 1" upgrade announced for next year, I don't think the receivers will be far behind. The product cycles seem to be accelerating...


John
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One of the reasons I didn't put years above 2007 is that I remembered an old HDMI press release that had a HDMI input for $15 and a HDMI output for $12, both of which supported 8 channel audio at 24-bit/96-kHz PCM. With 4 inputs and one output the HDMI components would be $72. Even if the cost of the encryption and internal connections doubled the price that would still be a cost of under $150.
Do you know what kind of effect will $150 have to the pricetag? $1000-$1500 maybe?
$72 of components adds at least 3x that to the price of electronics when you accommodate all the various stages of markup along the way.
If the video display does't have HDMI then forget it..

The latest video displays have DVI and ....

if brand new, HD and available soon it will have HDMI. The changeover is underway but another 2 years will be required for the change to be found in significant numbers..
the cutting edge is often the bleeding edge.......
Never. It'll be one of the defining features between the sub-1000 and 1000+ receivers? Life would be easier if my denon 4802 had > 3 component inputs. Additionally, an input by itself is probably $15, but when you have to put in a switching network for 4 of them, which doesn't introduce any problems, it'll probably be a hell of a lot more than $15.


I'm ready to do all of this over IPv6, one port for everything!. :)
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$72 of components adds at least 3x that to the price of electronics when you accommodate all the various stages of markup along the way.
If a 3x price increase is taken into account then by 2006 the additional price for adding 4 HDMI inputs will be no more than $60. It may even be lower if manufacturers develop a 4-input HDMI receiver, which seems quite possible to me considering that dual input HDMI receivers have been available for over 6 months. After further research I found out that the HDMI receiver in the press release was actually a dual input HDMI receiver. The SiI 9031 is a dual input HDMI receiver that can do up to 8 channels of 24-bit/96-kHz PCM and has DVD-A capability with a price of $15. This means that the component price for 4 HDMI inputs and 1 HDMI output is $42 and by 2006 that price should drop to around $20. Even with a 3x price markup adding 2 ($15) dual input HDMI receivers and 1 ($12) HDMI transmitter should cost an additional $120 today and no more than $60 by 2006 .
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If the video display does't have HDMI then forget it..
Having HDMI on the inputs of an AV receiver would be useful even if the display only had a DVI-HDCP input. An HDMI source would send both the audio and video to the AV receiver and the AV receiver would send the video to the display.
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