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Just got curious.


It seems that the plasma manufacturers have been pretty content with 13xx by 768 or so resolution for a long time, that I am asking around if anyone had any hints of a 1920 x 1080 plasma glass being manufactured anywhere in the near future (1~2 years?). Yes, I am fishing for anything. :p


I've had an ED plasma for a couple of years, but wanted "plan ahead". :p


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The 71" LG, 76" LG, and 71" Samsung are all 1920 x 1080.


The much rumored ~60" Matsushita might be 1920 x 1080, but I have no concrete information. (It would be trivial for them to do this based on the pixel pitch of the new 37" HD model.)
 

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Some were announced and shown at CES, but I don't remember who it was (NEC? Panasonic? Samsung?). I suspect all three will have something in that range for next year. If I remember where I saw it, I'll post again.


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> The 71" LG, 76" LG, and 71" Samsung are all 1920 x 1080.


Hmm... That's too big. A 60" would be nice, but that would still be quite expensive for now.


Thanks for the info.


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Will we ever see 42-50" plasmas with a native resolution of 1920x1080, or will 1920x1080 be limited to the 70+ inchers?
 

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I should have done this calculations before...


37" ED (480): 0.959 mm

42" ED (480): 1.090 mm.

42" HD (768): 0.681 mm.

50" HD (768): 0.811 mm.

61" HD (768): 0.989 mm.


Those are what's currently available. For other theoretical glasses,


42" HD (1080): 0.484 mm.

50" HD (1080): 0.577 mm.

61" HD (1080): 0.703 mm.

71" HD (1080): 0.819 mm.

76" HD (1080): 0.876 mm.


So, I guess 61" is possible if one can get the glass that big. Interesting...


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The only plasma displays with 1920x1080 resolution that have been previewed at CES are the 70"+ sizes. Probably years before a technological breakthru allows smaller plasma displays with that resolution - maybe the 50" sizes would be first, I doubt the 42" sizes would get there for a long time.
 

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the only logical step would be 960 (480x2) and that's so damn close to 1080 i doubt they'd bother with it.


LG claims their stuff will ship in "late 2004". if you look at the manufacturers FAQ at the top of the page here and click through the different vendors, i think you'll find 57" and 6X" 1920x1080 units announced for 2004, but no clue on real ship dates of course.


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No breakthough is needed. The pixel pitch of the Matsushita 37" HD glass is already small enough to make a 1920 x 1080 60" display, assuming square pixels.


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What is the pixel pitch of the new Panny/Matsushita 37"
 

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Originally posted by JSchulte
What is the pixel pitch of the new Panny/Matsushita 37"


Resolution is 1024 x 720
 

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As I noted above even 42" 768/HD (0.681 mm) would be enough for 61" 1080/HD (0.703 mm).


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Well, just like we had hoped for pixel perfect mapped native resolution digital inputs - which have become fairly standard now - it stands to reason that this bleeding edge forum is designing the plasmas to come.


1080P Native rate is thus (IMHO) slated for mass production circa 2005. :cool:
 

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Hongcho, yes, you are right... I missed that.


The point is that no breakthrough is needed (unlike the Samsung technology they discussed, which is a breakthrough and would allow 1920 x 1080 at 42") to achieve 61" plasmas with full HD resolution.


There is merely a market demand issue.


One thing to consider is that configuring a line to make a 60" panel is probably expensive, so I'd look for the current glass to stay the same for a bit.


But there is the new Matsushita big glass and the new Pioneer big glass. I've got no guarantees on what they'll do, but if either came up with 1920 x 1080 glass at 60-63", they'd have something they could sell against the competition quite well, it seems to me.


Something to consider.


(Oh, and when those new glass lines will get rolling is not at all certain, but late this year seems possible on both... Pioneer will either get it rolling or start sourcing glass and Matsushita clearly is not thrilled with the fact that NEC, LG and Samsung are all making the stuff like it's suddenly easy).


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