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Which booshelf speakers for 2.0 system?

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Hi to all,
this is my current configuration.

- I've a Pioneer VSX 831 receiver (6 ohm) with a home cinema kit. Using for 65% music and 35% cinema. For the latter please note I give more importance to clear dialogues than blasts and booms :)
- I can't raise the volume too high due to neighbors :)
- I do not want to buy a subwoofer (for now I would consider it a nice to have, not a must)
- I must insert the speakers in compartments of the bookcase (closed compartments of 50 x 40 x 30 cm): so no more than 15-20cm between speaker and wall. No floor stands: husbands will understand me.

I summarized the following options, realizing that it's useless to spend too much money but I need to find a quality compromise.

Solution 1: use home cinema with a 5.1 kit. Maybe finding a good bargain for a good brand kit (like Wharfedale DX2?). Total: 200-400 euro. Honestly the option I like least.

Solution 2: a good soundbar below 300 euro (rather found in second hand market), but sacrificing the musical aspect (I hate soundbars because those heard have a boxed sound). Surely I will never spend more than 300 euro for a soundbar.

Solution 3 (spending about 300-400 euro): sell the AV receiver and buy a Canton DM sound station-base (no hdmi) or Yamaha SRT 1000 / 1500 (or others). I will put it under the TV. I call this option "the compromise".

Solution 4. Buy two active speakers (i.e. Edifier 1700, Presonus Eris...) with bluetooth for smartphones/PC and connected to TV. Total: less than 200 euro.

Solution 5. System 2.0 with two three-way speakers like Yamaha NS-B330 or NS-333 or Sony SS-CS5 (or others) attached to the Pioneer receiver giving up the subwoofer and the center speaker but obtaining a minimum of bass. About 200 euro in grey market.

Solution 6. Two good passive bookshelf speakers for a 2.0 system. The ideal choice would be choosing a speaker that guarantees at least some bass. But the biggest problem is the position in the library that should lead me to exclude all speakers with the bass reflex port in the rear. After a quick search almost all of the speakers I like have a rear bass reflex.

In order of preference:
KEF q150: rear
Audio Monitor Bronze 1 and 2: rear (?)
Kef q100: front
Mission LX-2: rear
KLIPSCH 41 and 51: rear
Dali Zensor 1: rear
Wharfedale 11: front
Other ???

That being the case, what would you do? Thanks in advance.
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chek out the Jamo S 803 series
Hi to all,
this is my current configuration.

- I've a Pioneer VSX 831 receiver (6 ohm) with a home cinema kit. Using for 65% music and 35% cinema. For the latter please note I give more importance to clear dialogues than blasts and booms :)
- I can't raise the volume too high due to neighbors :)
- I do not want to buy a subwoofer (for now I would consider it a nice to have, not a must)
- I must insert the speakers in compartments of the bookcase (closed compartments of 50 x 40 x 30 cm): so no more than 15-20cm between speaker and wall. No floor stands: husbands will understand me.

I summarized the following options, realizing that it's useless to spend too much money but I need to find a quality compromise.

Solution 1: use home cinema with a 5.1 kit. Maybe finding a good bargain for a good brand kit (like Wharfedale DX2?). Total: 200-400 euro. Honestly the option I like least.

Solution 2: a good soundbar below 300 euro (rather found in second hand market), but sacrificing the musical aspect (I hate soundbars because those heard have a boxed sound). Surely I will never spend more than 300 euro for a soundbar.

Solution 3 (spending about 300-400 euro): sell the AV receiver and buy a Canton DM sound station-base (no hdmi) or Yamaha SRT 1000 / 1500 (or others). I will put it under the TV. I call this option "the compromise".

Solution 4. Buy two active speakers (i.e. Edifier 1700, Presonus Eris...) with bluetooth for smartphones/PC and connected to TV. Total: less than 200 euro.

Solution 5. System 2.0 with two three-way speakers like Yamaha NS-B330 or NS-333 or Sony SS-CS5 (or others) attached to the Pioneer receiver giving up the subwoofer and the center speaker but obtaining a minimum of bass. About 200 euro in grey market.

Solution 6. Two good passive bookshelf speakers for a 2.0 system. The ideal choice would be choosing a speaker that guarantees at least some bass. But the biggest problem is the position in the library that should lead me to exclude all speakers with the bass reflex port in the rear. After a quick search almost all of the speakers I like have a rear bass reflex.

In order of preference:
KEF q150: rear
Audio Monitor Bronze 1 and 2: rear (?)
Kef q100: front
Mission LX-2: rear
KLIPSCH 41 and 51: rear
Dali Zensor 1: rear
Wharfedale 11: front
Other ???

That being the case, what would you do? Thanks in advance.
You are going to laugh but it is not that unusual.

Look for outdoor speakers as they are almost universally sealed designs and often come in black or white.

https://www.richersounds.com/qacoustics-qi45ew.html
Mission LX-2 is said to have excellent bass, as well as being a good overall speaker. The Pio will do for the short-term, but you will want to eventually pair it with higher quality electronics, like NAD, Marantz, or Cambridge Audio.

https://www.whathifi.com/mission/lx-2/review

https://www.avforums.com/threads/mission-lx-2-speaker-review-comments.2080076/
Cambridge -- Mission -- Dali ... are some nice options -- and you may like the Wharfedale
Hi to all,
this is my current configuration.

- I've a Pioneer VSX 831 receiver (6 ohm) with a home cinema kit. Using for 65% music and 35% cinema. For the latter please note I give more importance to clear dialogues than blasts and booms :)
- I can't raise the volume too high due to neighbors :)
- I do not want to buy a subwoofer (for now I would consider it a nice to have, not a must)
- I must insert the speakers in compartments of the bookcase (closed compartments of 50 x 40 x 30 cm): so no more than 15-20cm between speaker and wall. No floor stands: husbands will understand me.

I summarized the following options, realizing that it's useless to spend too much money but I need to find a quality compromise.

Solution 1: use home cinema with a 5.1 kit. Maybe finding a good bargain for a good brand kit (like Wharfedale DX2?). Total: 200-400 euro. Honestly the option I like least.

Solution 2: a good soundbar below 300 euro (rather found in second hand market), but sacrificing the musical aspect (I hate soundbars because those heard have a boxed sound). Surely I will never spend more than 300 euro for a soundbar.

Solution 3 (spending about 300-400 euro): sell the AV receiver and buy a Canton DM sound station-base (no hdmi) or Yamaha SRT 1000 / 1500 (or others). I will put it under the TV. I call this option "the compromise".

Solution 4. Buy two active speakers (i.e. Edifier 1700, Presonus Eris...) with bluetooth for smartphones/PC and connected to TV. Total: less than 200 euro.

Solution 5. System 2.0 with two three-way speakers like Yamaha NS-B330 or NS-333 or Sony SS-CS5 (or others) attached to the Pioneer receiver giving up the subwoofer and the center speaker but obtaining a minimum of bass. About 200 euro in grey market.

Solution 6. Two good passive bookshelf speakers for a 2.0 system. The ideal choice would be choosing a speaker that guarantees at least some bass. But the biggest problem is the position in the library that should lead me to exclude all speakers with the bass reflex port in the rear. After a quick search almost all of the speakers I like have a rear bass reflex.

In order of preference:
KEF q150: rear
Audio Monitor Bronze 1 and 2: rear (?)
Kef q100: front
Mission LX-2: rear
KLIPSCH 41 and 51: rear
Dali Zensor 1: rear
Wharfedale 11: front
Other ???

That being the case, what would you do? Thanks in advance.
Due to the 3 factors I highlighted in red, the only and most obvious solution = the front-ported KEF Q100. It meets all 3 criteria, and IMO actually sounds better at moderate volumes than loud.

Another good option not on your list would be the Wharfedale Diamond 225, which is down-ported rather than rear-ported and packs plenty of bass for music...it will be less prone to treble harshness should you ever turn up the volume as well.
Hi to all,
this is my current configuration.

- I've a Pioneer VSX 831 receiver (6 ohm) with a home cinema kit. Using for 65% music and 35% cinema. For the latter please note I give more importance to clear dialogues than blasts and booms :)
- I can't raise the volume too high due to neighbors :)
- I do not want to buy a subwoofer (for now I would consider it a nice to have, not a must)
- I must insert the speakers in compartments of the bookcase (closed compartments of 50 x 40 x 30 cm): so no more than 15-20cm between speaker and wall. No floor stands: husbands will understand me.

I summarized the following options, realizing that it's useless to spend too much money but I need to find a quality compromise.

Solution 1: use home cinema with a 5.1 kit. Maybe finding a good bargain for a good brand kit (like Wharfedale DX2?). Total: 200-400 euro. Honestly the option I like least.

Solution 2: a good soundbar below 300 euro (rather found in second hand market), but sacrificing the musical aspect (I hate soundbars because those heard have a boxed sound). Surely I will never spend more than 300 euro for a soundbar.

Solution 3 (spending about 300-400 euro): sell the AV receiver and buy a Canton DM sound station-base (no hdmi) or Yamaha SRT 1000 / 1500 (or others). I will put it under the TV. I call this option "the compromise".

Solution 4. Buy two active speakers (i.e. Edifier 1700, Presonus Eris...) with bluetooth for smartphones/PC and connected to TV. Total: less than 200 euro.

Solution 5. System 2.0 with two three-way speakers like Yamaha NS-B330 or NS-333 or Sony SS-CS5 (or others) attached to the Pioneer receiver giving up the subwoofer and the center speaker but obtaining a minimum of bass. About 200 euro in grey market.

Solution 6. Two good passive bookshelf speakers for a 2.0 system. The ideal choice would be choosing a speaker that guarantees at least some bass. But the biggest problem is the position in the library that should lead me to exclude all speakers with the bass reflex port in the rear. After a quick search almost all of the speakers I like have a rear bass reflex.

In order of preference:
KEF q150: rear
Audio Monitor Bronze 1 and 2: rear (?)
Kef q100: front
Mission LX-2: rear
KLIPSCH 41 and 51: rear
Dali Zensor 1: rear
Wharfedale 11: front
Other ???

That being the case, what would you do? Thanks in advance.
As an added note - the KEF Q150s come with bungs to put into the rear port (at least according to Crutchfield), so they can be sealed.

I would take @Zorba922 's advice, though.
Canton Chrono's 5xx series would be a great option if available to you. Not sure pricing in your area.
Thanks for your suggestions. This is my new short list, in order of preference:

Looking for special offers/second hand:
1. Monitor Audio Bronze 2 / Kef Q150
2. Canton 502 / Canton 50x

New:
3. Q Acoustics 3020 / Kef Q100 / Dali Zensor 1
4. Jamo S803 / Wharfedale 225 or 11.2


I'll try to listen in some store (but not so easy to do), in the meanwhile I could judge only on Youtube reviews and sound tests.
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Thanks for your suggestions. This is my new short list, in order of preference:

Looking for special offers/second hand:
1. Monitor Audio Bronze 2 / Kef Q150
2. Canton 502 / Canton 50x

New:
3. Q Acoustics 3020 / Kef Q100 / Dali Zensor 1
4. Jamo S803 / Wharfedale 225 or 11.2


I'll try to listen in some store (but not so easy to do), in the meanwhile I could judge only on Youtube reviews and sound tests.
I suggest you go with front ported or sealed. A good sealed option would be the nht super one 2.1.
For Canton go with the Chrono 512 and up

For the rear port one thing you can do is either put a sock in the rear port, or put some foam against the compartment back wall that you put the speaker in
For Canton go with the Chrono 512 and up
How do you compare this to Monitor Audio or Q Acoustics?
How do you compare this to Monitor Audio or Q Acoustics?
For me they are better than the Q Acoustics -- and I would take them over the M A Silver that I auditioned
Thanks for your suggestions. This is my new short list, in order of preference:

Looking for special offers/second hand:
1. Monitor Audio Bronze 2 / Kef Q150
2. Canton 502 / Canton 50x

New:
3. Q Acoustics 3020 / Kef Q100 / Dali Zensor 1
4. Jamo S803 / Wharfedale 225 or 11.2


I'll try to listen in some store (but not so easy to do), in the meanwhile I could judge only on Youtube reviews and sound tests.
If you can find some Q Acoustics Concept 20s used they are excellent.

They also come with port plugs.

My friend uses them inside a cabinet without port plugs in 2.0 and they sound excellent despite running full range.

No mid bass bloat without the port plugs which was surprising to me.

Might be due to the very inert cabinet.
In the end, contrary to all intentions and assumptions, I listened to the b&w 607 and I could not resist. I compared them a lot with monitor audio bronze, which were maybe better suited to my room and library, but they were more tiring for my ears. I loved the b&w (I bought them at half price, since ex-demo: the offer obviously has been the selling point).

Now I doubt if my current AV receiver (Pioneer vsx831) is ideal for driving these speakers.

B&W 607 specs:
Frequency range -6dB 40Hz and 33kHz
Frequency response 52Hz - 28kHz ±3dB
Sensitivity 84dB spl (2.83Vrms, 1m)
Harmonic distortion 2nd and 3rd harmonics (90dB, 1m)
KEF Q150 seems like a good choice. As a KEF owner myself :D
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More power is always nice for B&W’s but I think they’ll be fine with that Pioneer.
Actually the point is that now I am considering whether to switch to a stereo amplifier (which could have "only" 45-50w per channel) instead of an avr.
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