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I know very little about what changes when using different DSP's, and would love to hear some opinions on what people like to use.


I personally have always used Yamaha receivers, and have been a big fan of 7CH Stereo or 7CH Enhancer. To me it sounds like this clones the audio in every speaker, and is great for listening to music or watching an event on TV that is not made to be heard in a surround setting.


I don't like most of the effects that other DSPs put off that try to mimic things like "Roxy Theater" or "Chamber". I don't like my sound being processed more than it was intended to be.


Is "straight" just passing audio based on the source?


Would love some opinions and different scenarios. Thanks!
 

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Yes, 7 channel stereo duplicates L/R to the matching pairs of surround speakers. While that's fine for background music at parties, it seems odd to hear voices that belong in the center coming out of all the speakers.


Those other DSPs with names like stadium and jazz hall are useless in my opinion.


Try PLII or DTS Neo:6. They intelligently expand stereo to 5.1. The music modes of those DSPs give the user control over the width and depth of the sound expansion. I use PLII Music for all stereo sources.
 

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I'll occaisionally have fun with some of the sound programs, mostly Cellar Club; but for music I almost always come back to 7 channel stereo. I like the room filling effect. Pure Direct is nice too, but lacks the punch of 7ch stereo, so I usually go back. Also, sometimes I use the sound programs to make up for poor recordings, dead mixed can be livened up a bit.


That's for music, for movies I always stick with Standard.
 

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Originally Posted by BIslander  /t/1467654/which-dsp-do-you-use-and-why-yamaha#post_23186999


Yes, 7 channel stereo duplicates L/R to the matching pairs of surround speakers. While that's fine for background music at parties, it seems odd to hear voices that belong in the center coming out of all the speakers.

True -- however, the way my main zone is set up, I am not always facing towards my center speaker. I have a computer set up directly below my SideLeft speaker, facing the direction of SideRight. So even if it was just me and I was using my computer, in that instance I would only hear voice coming from the right side. I know there are other problems with this setup however.
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Those other DSPs with names like stadium and jazz hall are useless in my opinion.

Agreed.
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Try PLII or DTS Neo:6. They intelligently expand stereo to 5.1. The music modes of those DSPs give the user control over the width and depth of the sound expansion. I use PLII Music for all stereo sources.

I saw the Neo ones on my new receiver. Meant to check them out. So basically this would be like how PLII takes sound meant for 5.1 and intelligently expands it to 7.1? Except with music? Does it only support 5.1 or is there a Neo 7.1? PLII Music sounds like a good idea too -- that must keep all vocals in the front and expand the L&R channels to the sides and rears?


Thanks!
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I'll occaisionally have fun with some of the sound programs, mostly Cellar Club; but for music I almost always come back to 7 channel stereo. I like the room filling effect. Pure Direct is nice too, but lacks the punch of 7ch stereo, so I usually go back. Also, sometimes I use the sound programs to make up for poor recordings, dead mixed can be livened up a bit.

Haven't tried Pure Direct.. does that mean it only plays what it was recorded in?


Also, does anyone have experience on what "Enhancer" does? My old Yamaha used to say 7CH Music Enhancer, now it just says 7CH Stereo, and Enhancer is another optional altogether.
 

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PLII expands to 5.1. PLIIx expands to 7.1. DTS Neo:6 does both, although the rear expansion is mono fed to both rear speakers while PLIIx does stereo rears. These modes work with all sources. The DSP doesn't know you are listening to a movie or to music.


Pure Direct bypasses all digital processing, including bass management and room correction.


There is no right or wrong with these modes. Use whatever sounds good to you.
 

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PLII expands to 5.1. PLIIx expands to 7.1. DTS Neo:6 does both, although the rear expansion is mono fed to both rear speakers while PLIIx does stereo rears. These modes work with all sources. The DSP doesn't know you are listening to a movie or to music.


Pure Direct bypasses all digital processing, including bass management and room correction.


There is no right or wrong with these modes. Use whatever sounds good to you.

Ah I see. Thank you for the very helpful information.


And out of curiosity -- does BIslander stand for Block Islander by chance?
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Nice avatar, terrific album.

Thanks!



You're the first to comment on it. My favorite by them, followed by The Seventh House, or maybe their newest.
 

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I've become a big fan of the RX-A840's 7ch upmix (Yamaha DSP). Dolby don't give that wall of sound from all speakers. Dolby actually makes music sound worse, at least for my tastes. Turn on the 'Enhancer' if you want more punch i.e. for Hip Hop.
 

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Just got into Yamaha receivers, and think CinemaDSP is awesome. I keep mine on Standard when watching Movies. I think it makes the front stage better, as in dialogue, and speakers seem to disappear, and there is just sound. Use 7 channel stereo when listening to music.
 

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Just got into Yamaha receivers, and think CinemaDSP is awesome. I keep mine on Standard when watching Movies. I think it makes the front stage better, as in dialogue, and speakers seem to disappear, and there is just sound. Use 7 channel stereo when listening to music.
For music, I like the ProLogic IIx Music mode ... it seems to preserve the soundstage imaging much better than 7 Channel Stereo (it's louder but not as good in my opinion). With PLIIx Music it's also possible to tweak the settings to fit your room's acoustic properties.
Purists should use 2 Channel Stereo obviously.

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For movies, I usually go with the Sci-Fi DSP mode as I like how the surround speakers come alive while keeping the dialog clear (minimal to no reverb) ... you truly get a sense that you're sitting in the middle of the scene. This mode is especially great for action and science-fiction movies.
Watch the Jurassic Park movie in this mode and you'll get my point. ;)

Standard mode is also a great choice if you find the Sci-Fi mode surround effects are too much for your taste.

Straight mode is for people who prefer listening to movies the way it was recorded in the studio, while great for theaters I find that mode a bit underwhelming for a typical living room. Some people will disagree with this and that's perfectly fine, it's just a personal opinion.

I don't like the other DSP modes, I find the extra reverb ruins scenes with dialog.

In a nutshell, there's no right or wrong answer ... just use the mode that sounds right to you (no one will come at your door to arrest you).
 
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