[iwantaplasma]

I have been set on a Marantz SR6003 for about the past year and am now at the point to buy. However I have found 2 seemingly great alternatives and need some decision help.


Marantz 6003 - refurbed for $650

Pioneer 9040 or elite 21txh - ~ $500

Onkyo nr807/rc180 - $700/$630 refurb


I have not seen any direct comparisons between any of these three. The big draw to the Onkyo is the network capability. The Pio has price on its side and have also read nothing negative, in fact I have read nothing negative about any of the three. How much real world power does the Pioneer have? I cannot find any tests like the other two.

 

[mbyrnes]

If you really want Networking get the Onkyo. This is a feature I wish I had on my AVR. I would use it a lot. All three of them are nice units with plenty of power for 8ohm speakers. The Marantz will have the least amount of features. Personally I would go with the 807 because I prefer the features it offers. Go for features!!!!!!

 

[afrogt]

You should be able to get a RC180 new for $600 depending where you live. It comes on sale for that price at my local Fry's Electronics every other week.

 

[GregLee]

The new Pioneer 7.1 receivers will be announced later this week.

 

[iwantaplasma]



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Originally Posted by GregLee /forum/post/18242701


The new Pioneer 7.1 receivers will be announced later this week.

$700 is my upper limit and wouldn't expect anything comparable that is newly released for that price.

 

[penngray]



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Originally Posted by mbyrnes /forum/post/18242210


If you really want Networking get the Onkyo. This is a feature I wish I had on my AVR. I would use it a lot. All three of them are nice units with plenty of power for 8ohm speakers. The Marantz will have the least amount of features. Personally I would go with the 807 because I prefer the features it offers. Go for features!!!!!!

What does the networking feature allow you to do?

 

[iwantaplasma]



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Originally Posted by penngray /forum/post/18242893


What does the networking feature allow you to do?

You can access music on your computer as well as internet radio and updating firmware.

 

[abc5]

i like networkable receivers too. are there any that have network, hdmi pass thru, and HD Radio all together?

 

[GregLee]



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Originally Posted by penngray /forum/post/18242893


What does the networking feature allow you to do?

I've been reading the manual for the new Pioneer 1020 ($549 MSRP on Amazon), which has an ethernet socket. All it seems to do is play internet radio, and maintain a web page that lets you browse from your computer to its playlist of internet radio stations, so you can change the playlist.

 

[EJ]



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Originally Posted by abc5 /forum/post/18263575


i like networkable receivers too. are there any that have network, hdmi pass thru, and HD Radio all together?

I think the Denon 3310CI might have what you are looking for.

 

[Sitting Bull]



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Originally Posted by EJ /forum/post/18264073


I think the Denon 3310CI might have what you are looking for.

Except the price is way too high

 

[EJ]

I already had an HD tuner and I can live without networking, so I went for the 2310 @ about $600 street.

 

[abc5]



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Originally Posted by Sitting Bull /forum/post/18264318


Except the price is way too high

true, denons are premium priced... but i don't think they're implementing networkability well, read theirs are flakey. also, seems like the 3310 has no THX. for that price I think they should have it.

 

[Sitting Bull]



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Originally Posted by abc5 /forum/post/18265358


true, denons are premium priced... but i don't think they're implementing networkability well, read theirs are flakey. also, seems like the 3310 has no THX. for that price I think they should have it.

The Denon 3310 can not be THX certified because its amps are much too weak. This is the Achilles heel of Denon's lineup this year, from the 3310 down. And that makes them way overpriced for what they are capable of. Denon is ripping everyone off big time this year, and that is unforgivable in this economy.

Or any other economy, if we are going to be honest about these sorts of issues.

 

[EJ]

For any perceived lack of power (which in no way affects me in my size room) Denon had me happily buying the 2310. To each his own


It drives my 4 Ohm surrounds at reference levels just fine.

 

[Sitting Bull]



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Originally Posted by EJ /forum/post/18269662


For any perceived lack of power (which in no way affects me in my size room) Denon had me happily buying the 2310. To each his own


It drives my 4 Ohm surrounds at reference levels just fine.

How long the Denon will be happy to power those 4 ohm speakers is the question. Honestly, I just bought an AVR a couple months back and really wanted to get a new Denon but the review I found of the 3310 convinced me not to go with it.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/recei...-receiver.html


Read especially the comments section at the end, it is quite revealing.


I have Magnepan MMGs, which are 4 ohm speakers and finally decided on the Onkyo HT-RC 180. No problems so far and hopefully none in the future.


I hope your Denon 2310 keeps running great

 

[EJ]

I would be more concerned if my front 3 speakers were not 8 Ohms, but being only 2 of the 3 rears are 4 Ohm dipoles, I'm confident it will be fine. If not, I guess that's what the 2-year warranty is for.

 

[Sitting Bull]



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Originally Posted by EJ /forum/post/18269716


I would be more concerned if my front 3 speakers were not 8 Ohms, but being only 2 of the 3 rears are 4 Ohm dipoles, I'm confident it will be fine. If not, I guess that's what the 2-year warranty is for.

You might find this interesting. Of THX AVRs, only the Ultra specified units are certified to drive 4 ohm speakers in the rear. My Onkyo 180 is Select2 Plus certified but that is only guaranteed to drive 8 ohm speakers in the rear channels.


But like I said earlier, I hope things keep working fine for you and unless you are driving your speakers to insane levels of amplitude, you will hopefully be just fine

 

[abc5]



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Originally Posted by Sitting Bull /forum/post/18269587


The Denon 3310 can not be THX certified because its amps are much too weak. This is the Achilles heel of Denon's lineup this year, from the 3310 down. And that makes them way overpriced for what they are capable of. Denon is ripping everyone off big time this year, and that is unforgivable in this economy.

Or any other economy, if we are going to be honest about these sorts of issues.

ahh, good call on the THX, understood. i agree w/ the what you get for your money issue w/ Denons. One thing though, just like the Germans w/ scaling back on features on the BMWs due to their currency being strong and ours cheapened, the Japanese Yen is also strong vs. our dollar. They either raise prices, or cut features, or a mix of both. That being said, Denon asking for more of a premium than other Japanese makers can still be said.

 

[Audiodork]

Hello,

I would really spend the extra 100 Dollars and pick up a B-Stock TX-SR876 from Accessories4less for 829.

Much stronger amplifier section than any of the above, Audyssey MultEQ XT, THX Ultra 2 Plus, ISF Video Modes, Reon Video Processing and more.


Truly is in another class than any of the above and a ridiculous value at 829.

At the MSRP, the 876 truly had no peers.

Cheers,

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