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Which processor for full MadVR?

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I'd read through quite a few pages of madvr threads and see video card recommendations but not as much about which processor to use. Would a pentium be enough if I plan on getting a 7790 or do I need to go for an i3 or i5? I won't be gaming at all, strictly movies and tv.
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Originally Posted by squeakybirnbaum  /t/1517179/which-processor-for-full-madvr#post_24341129


I'd read through quite a few pages of madvr threads and see video card recommendations but not as much about which processor to use. Would a pentium be enough if I plan on getting a 7790 or do I need to go for an i3 or i5? I won't be gaming at all, strictly movies and tv.

Pentium should be enough for MadVR. As long as you don't go for MadVR + SVP, the pentium will handle MadVR fairly easily.


Given MadVR latest improvements (NNEDI, OpenCL error diffusion), you might be a little under-powered with a 7790 for SD and 720p content. But if you are going to watch mostly 1080p and/or will be happy with Jinc upscaling, then 7790 will be okay. Full MadVR has taken a whole new meaning recently, just making sure you knew....
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Originally Posted by laverdure  /t/1517179/which-processor-for-full-madvr/0_100#post_24342224


Pentium should be enough for MadVR. As long as you don't go for MadVR + SVP, the pentium will handle MadVR fairly easily.


Given MadVR latest improvements (NNEDI, OpenCL error diffusion), you might be a little under-powered with a 7790 for SD and 720p content. But if you are going to watch mostly 1080p and/or will be happy with Jinc upscaling, then 7790 will be okay. Full MadVR has taken a whole new meaning recently, just making sure you knew....

I would not even try to run a pentium in the same room as a machine running SVP
The two are like oil and water



As for MadVR you might want a corei3 for the hyperthreading and extra speed boost. Pentium is really pretty weak CPU for a serious MadVR machine. The high turbo boost alone on the i3 makes is a better choice for headroom- it will let your video card work easier and give you better results. 7790 is probably enough but those cards are gone now. With a Pentium is would be more important to spend up and get the 7790 with 2GB (asus is good choice) as you would feel/need the improvement over the cheaper 7770 with only 1GB. Video is harder than film (60fps vs 24fps) so for film you mostly will be ok, but with video not so much.


Of coarse with Litecoin mining now all the radeon cards are sold out and increase about $100.


You can not find good prices on 7770 or 7790 cards (they were selling for $100 or less for a while). I doubt you even find any in stock or left. They are now old and discontinued.


The replacements are the R7 260 and R7 260X I would suggest the R7 260X with the i3 for some extra headroom. This forum has a tendency to reinforce the mentality of "enough" or going "cheap" but often this bites you later on with regret or less optimal performance. Nothing wrong with a little extra just in case, you often will be glad you did later.


I have learned this lesson the hard way. Upgraded my desktop 3 times in last 3 years, upgraded my server 3 times, and upgraded my HTPC 3 times. I started on a PENTIUM for my HTPC and my server and both have been replaced. I have a 3570k now in my HTPC and an i7 2600k in my Flexraid media server. My desktop is a 4770k.


Pentium is fine for simple play back duty but when you get into serious madvr you likely want an i3 or higher for many reasons. It's not about if it's enough all the time either. It's about what is best choice or good decision. Unless you have a super low limited budget you don't want a pentium.


Many think the pentium is more efficient or more "green" which is also a wrong myth. It will actually run closer to 100% or higher in the percent of CPU needed for such things, so it will run hotter and consume more power. On something like a modern Haswell i3 just because you have 3.6ghz clock (higher with turbo boost) does not mean it uses more power. Actually probably uses less playing back a video on madvr, and it will idle around 800mhz. But if you need the power and when you want it (like opening a heavy program or winrar something) it's well worth having.


The difference in cost of say a 7770/R7-260 and a R7 260X is about what the difference between a pentium and i3 are. You might want to do the lower card with the higher CPU, I think it's more balanced.


R7 260 + i3

next level up would be"

R7 260X 2GB with i5


Chasing madvr is a serious en devour so if you are the type of person to care about such things as opposed to simple playback (for which pentium is wonderful) I tend to think you won't remain happy with a pentium. I did not.


If you want Nvidia you need at minimum a 650Ti.
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7790 did not go anywhere, AMD just got some new stickers for it.

The good news is they are all GCN 1.1 just like the high end R9 which means slightly better decoders and extra audio stuff that might work someday.


For all meaningful purposes:


R7 260 == 7790 with one unit disabled

R7 260x == 7790 overclocked


Yoinked from wikipedia's terrible randomly formatted tables :
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[CODE]Model           Launch          Core            Memory (MiB)    Cpu     Ram     Core Configuration
Radeon HD 7790  Mar 22, 2013    Bonaire XT      1024/2048       1000    1500    896:56:16
Radeon R7 260   Dec 17, 2013    Bonaire         1024            1000    1500    768:48:16
Radeon R7 260X  Oct 8, 2013     Bonaire XTX     1024/2048       1100    1625    896:56:16
[/CODE]


As for "pentium", intel has (intentionally) turned that word into a rather meaningless brand name, it could be a chip from 10 years ago or a brand new haswell dual core with HT disabled and GPU somewhat neutered.


Consult the exact model at the ark to be sure.
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Originally Posted by Mfusick  /t/1517179/which-processor-for-full-madvr#post_24345717


As for MadVR you might want a corei3 for the hyperthreading and extra speed boost. Pentium is really pretty weak CPU for a serious MadVR machine. The high turbo boost alone on the i3 makes is a better choice for headroom- it will let your video card work easier and give you better results.

This hasn't been my experience. A weak processor such as the Dual Core Pentium e3400 is sufficient with MadVR (and Jinc3/AR), without SVP


With the latest builds of MadVR and NNEDI3, it seems that my e8500 is coping well as the bottleneck is my video card (Sapphire 7770)

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Originally Posted by Mfusick  /t/1517179/which-processor-for-full-madvr/0_100#post_24345717


Of coarse with Litecoin mining now all the radeon cards are sold out and increase about $100.


You can not find good prices on 7770 or 7790 cards (they were selling for $100 or less for a while). I doubt you even find any in stock or left. They are now old and discontinued.
I just picked up a 7770 for $75 AR. It's more card than I was originally looking for, but at that price I couldn't pass it up. It's cheaper than any 7750 I saw and not much more expensive than 6570 or similar. Should also be able to game at 1080p high for most titles.
http://slickdeals.net/f/6728626-sapphire-radeon-hd-7770-ghz-edition-1gb-pci-express-3-0-video-card-75-after-15-rebate-free-shipping
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