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Is there a term for this?


I know the Yamaha RX-A series allow this.

Most people say that the Onkyo and Denon do not.


This seems like a feature that everyone should have already.
 

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My guess is that the only source most people would pass through the AVR is from satellite or cable, and that for others they want to turn on the system to enjoy the audio. But, you ate right, seems like it should be a standard feature since I can't imagine the manufacturing cost increases at all. But then I'm not a design guy.
 

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The feature is called...


HDMI switching in standby(yeah, I know...not real obvious
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Yes more than Yamaha has it, most of the time it requires a power cycle of the sources connected to the receiver. Lots of Motorola C-STB don't allow "power cycle" style switching to work(the Motorola boxes don't completely power down). Some receivers actually require you to use the remote, yes you don't actually have to turn the receiver on...


So yes, you can find it.
 

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie /forum/post/20771477


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I just spoke to Onkyo CS and the guy confirmed that when the X09 model is set to "AUTO" it will pass any active HDMI source through the AVR while it's in Standby.

I have the Onkyo NR709 which I currently have it set to AUTO, and yes it will pass any active HDMI source through the AVR while it's in Standby. But I have not found how you can switch it while it is Standby ... the only way I have found is to cycle the Receiver on, switch the source, then power the Receiver off.


Anyone know of any setting which will allow you to switch sources while in Standby?


Also does any brand besides the Yamaha quoted above have this feature?
 

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Ok, just to make sure we are on the same page.


I'm watching TV on Dish Network and I want to change to a BLu-Ray Movie. The Receiver is in Standby mode.


I want: to push the power button on the LG Blu-Ray player and have the Receiver detect that new input and change to it. When I'm done with the movie and I shut off the LG, I want the Receiver to detect the 'off' input and search all the rest of the inputs for a signal. Then switch back to the Dish DVR automatically.


With Denon or Onkyo, you have to:


Turn on Blu-Ray

Turn on the AVR and switch the input

Put AVR into Standby mode

Watch the movie

Turn on the AVR and swtich back to Dish DVR

Put AVR back into Standby mode again


It's easy for me and my wife, but I have several 'electronically challenged' relatives and a 3 year old who just learned how to play and pause on the DVR
 

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Supie, check that out for us and report back



It's still not ideal. But would this work on the Denon 2112ci?


AVR in Standby - "Auto"

Dish DVR on

TV on


I want to watch a Blu-Ray:


Turn Dish DVR 'OFF'

Turn Blu-Ray 'ON'

The Denon AVR2112CI will switch to Blu-Ray automatically?
 

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Theoretically speaking...


The new Onkyo X09 "have" HDMI switching in standby. It is a backward approach though. With Yamaha, you still have to switch the inputs with the remote(meaning you pick up the remote, change it from CABLE/SAT to DVD/BD, you just don't have to actually turn it on).


With the Onkyo with AUTO turned on...


If you are watching the Dish Net and you turn it off, then turn on your BD player...the Onkyo will switch to the BD player...however...


It is a fickle approach. It does NOT always work. Some DVR(Dish/Directv/Comcast/Fios) don't have a true "powered down" state*, which puts a kibosh on the whole "switching in standby mode".


*the reason why DVR don't have a true "powered down" like a BD player or a NON DVR receiver is...they couldn't record anything if they were truly powered down. So, if you have a DVR, you might as well kiss goodbye the thought of "HDMI switching in standby", as it won't work.
 

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Yea, I wondered about that power off thing with the DVR.


Whatever the DISH VIP722 does when I push the Power Button it is still sending a signal out through the HDMI cable. The screen shows a message that the DVR is off, push Select to turn it back on.


That setup would require me to walk over and power off the DVR for the Auto to work.
 

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It would be nice if all these new fangled features that end up being useless would quit being introduced...


ARC(audio return channel) sucks cause of CEC...

HDMI switching in standby sucks because of what CEC "needs" to function, even if you don't use CEC...(namely the lack of a true "powered down")
 

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With the Denon only .. as noted above ... as well as the 709 thread .. as long as there are not multiple sources detected as ON, then the "Auto" mode on the Onkyo will work with it in Standby.
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Supie, check that out for us and report back.
The standby switching was not working for me but:


I think JD hit on the key .... "as long as there are not multiple sources detected as ON" .... since I am using TIVO (which is always on) it was not working for me. In further testing I found that with the HDMI Through set to AUTO, if I turn on my BluRay or DVD it switches to that source but when I turn of BluRay or DVD and try to go back to Tivo it will not do that because it was already on.


So my conclusion is that if it was not for the TIVO always being on, it would work.


JD .... any suggestions to work around the Tivo???


Thanks
 

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So my conclusion is that if it was not for the TIVO always being on, it would work.


JD .... any suggestions to work around the Tivo???


Thanks
Hi supie, not jd but a cheap HDMI switch between Tivo and receiver may do the trick.
 

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The standby switching was not working for me but:


I think JD hit on the key .... "as long as there are not multiple sources detected as ON" .... since I am using TIVO (which is always on) it was not working for me. In further testing I found that with the HDMI Through set to AUTO, if I turn on my BluRay or DVD it switches to that source but when I turn of BluRay or DVD and try to go back to Tivo it will not do that because it was already on.


So my conclusion is that if it was not for the TIVO always being on, it would work.


JD .... any suggestions to work around the Tivo???


Thanks
Sure. Take the TiVo out of the HDMI loop and connect it directly to your TV via HDMI with optical to the AVR. That way you can achieve the same result ... ie. watch TiVo with the AVR in standby using the TV speakers, and when you want to use the surround speakers, turn the AVR ON and select the optical input.
 

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie
Sure. Take the TiVo out of the HDMI loop and connect it directly to your TV via HDMI with optical to the AVR. That way you can achieve the same result ... ie. watch TiVo with the AVR in standby using the TV speakers, and when you want to use the surround speakers, turn the AVR ON and select the optical input.
Had not thought of that ... good idea .... Thanks
 

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I can't do that with my setup because I have 1 long (45') HDMI run to the TV.


I picked up this HDMI Switch for $5 at a place that sell "Return" items.( http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketfi...185375&st=hdmi switch&cp=1&lp=2)


The switch worked ok with the DVR and my old DVD player, but something is different on the new LG Blu-Ray. The switch will not pass that signal for some reason.
 
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